I hear your concerns, but the whole point to let builders in the mining world and PVP taken away, is that they need some where to make money and not be afraid if someone is going to kill them. If there became PVP in mining world I believe that ECC would lose a lot of people.

 

I keep hearing PvP in mining world is like real life.....hmmmm I go to work everyday and people don't kill me and take all my stuff. I think it will make builders quit or grief the main worlds with mass mining. I just think this is a huge power play by all the big pvp'ers so they can control the whole economy. They say it would be fair for everyone but not really they have amazing skills a lot of us dont. They will have all the ores and experience to charge whatever they want to in their shops. Do you really want to risk your eff7 and all your ores with 3point on the prowl....I know I dont. I hope they make mining pvp so we can quit hearing this tired old topic pop up every 5 minutes. Then they can have their wasteland like the nether and kill each other. Once they get this through it will be "we need pvp in the main world to stop all this mining and grief happening." Then you can change it to hardcore pvp server instead of hardcore economy. It is my opinion a lot of the really rich people are good pvp'ers and now that everyone has a chance to make money and they can't kill you and take it from you they need it changed. Sorry this is my rant because I am so sick of this topic and the constant whining in global. Let's talk about real world...my job has changed so much in the 16 years I have been there it's ridiculous....nothing stays the same and most things don't go back to the way they were in the good old days. Probably because a lot of people didn't think they were so amazing because they weren't elite pvp'ers.

 

How many times have I been in the mining world and thought, "I'm not safe here." To be completely honest, that was two-three years ago. Minecraft is about that, killing people for their stuff or alliance with others to protect the stuff. ECC has butchered that majorly. The last exciting moment in my ECC life was about two-three years ago, when pvp was it! The thrill to look over your own head or tunnel down to an inconspicuous miner!

Yes, some people stink at pvp! But where's the fun in not dying? ECC has become a bland server where the only thrill is lottery; a cheap drug for pleasure. If you die, then you have to take revenge on those people! People are forced to create alliances! If you don't like mining, then go farm in a plot world! But this, this is what fun IS! Being able to stalk up on people and cower from others.

All and all, ECC has become incredibly bland. It's the same mining or the same farming on and on and on... Holy crap that's boring! When is the last time I've made a dollar on my own you ask? It's been about three months. Why? Why the heck do I want to go mining and just... chat? I want to find those miners and kill them, or protect my fellow miners!

 

Direct rebuttal to the above:
1. The Mining world was started sometime in the Spring of 2012 (maybe Summer?)... so "I'm not safe here" about "2-3 years ago" doesn't fly, especially since your forum account hasn't been live a full two years yet. Granted, you COULD have been a Builder for the first 6 months or so, but you need a Forum Account to apply for Resident.
2. I seem to remember that the Mining World was started to remove the strip mining that we were all doing to what is now called Legacy.
3. After a little while, with the Mining World being PvP, we discovered that a) the PvPers went to the Mining World for PvP only, and the Miners went to mine... until the 3rd time or so that they were killed as soon as they left the spawn safe zone. Then they went back to Legacy to Mine where it was safe. Which meant that the Mining World was pretty empty since the "Spawn Campers" made it too dangerous.
4. After much discussion, the Mining World was changed from 'Resident+ Only' to 'Anyone', and from PvP to non-PvP. And this change happened because the majority of the players on this ECONOMY Server didn't like to die and lose all their stuff.
5. The "fun in not dying" is the part where we, the non-PvPers, prefer to be. We like to farm, build, mine, sell, trade, chat, and create. If we wanted to PvP, we would crank up Halo, or CoD, or Assassin's Creed, or Diablo II, or countless other games. But none of them can we BUILD in. There are MANY Minecraft servers that cater to the PvP-minded people, that cater to the Griefers, that appeal to the barbarians.

Why is the Mining World not PvP, you ask?

"I want to find those miners and kill them..."

You don't want PvP, you want victims.

I want to play in the sandbox and build neat stuff without the bully that constantly throws rocks at the back of my head because he thinks "building is so booooooring!" Which is why you have the SG and PvP arenas, and I have a safe place to gather materials for my creations. It is, after all, called MINEcraft, not KILLcraft.

 

I am sorry you have been totally bored and unhappy here on ECC (for about two-three years now it seems).
While I would prefer that no person would leave this server since it has so much to offer, I have to ask - why are you still here if you have been so disappointed for the last 2 or 3 years?
ECC advertises itself as an economy server and that is what players come here for - there are a multitude of "killing" servers out there.
May I suggest that all of the players that want to kill and be killed while mining simply buy towns and make them pvp. Many could be connected to create a larger area and after it is used up, either have a "resource" party to replenish, or simply buy more towns.
This is a simple answer that will also help with the economy as well and show that you and others that wish this are committed to PVP.
One of the great things about ECC is that you can play here and not even earn a dollar for three months - but if you are interested you may now have a goal of earning money to provide yourself with a fun and exciting (for you and other pvp'ers) place to play something that you wish to do.
I hope this new goal will give you back some interest in being here and I would be glad to help out if you decide to follow thru with something like this.

 

I'd like you to think about the people who joined back in 2012. The amount of dedicated players there were. Think about now.

I'm still here because of friends and the community. It's hard to let go of you all.

 

I would hate to see the mining world become pvp, however maybe it would be possible to have it set to a pvp zone 1 day per week? Seems to be a fair amount of users asking for it. Only trouble is I am not sure on whether this is possible or would create to much work to justify it.

 

-1
Why?
Spawn Camping,Mining in Main world,Loss of appeal to new players,Mining world is for MINING,there are already areas for PvP.

 

Logical Reasoning (Sherlock Style :p) (P.S. Good Idea Though! :happy:)

-1
Why You Ask?
1. MINEcraft, ECOcitycraft
2. Miners will be even not safer...
3. Builders need a chance to actually MINE somewhere safe
4. Almost what everyone else has said
5. SG ($) PvP (Settle differences/fun) PvP Arenas (IDK) , ETC...

- DaisyWarrior

 

I have a suggestion for this. I'm not sure if it can be done though. Since the people are split on the idea of making the mining world PvP (which I'm with the half that don't want it PvP), why not split the current one up?
Like, protect half of the mining world so people who don't buy access can't get in... much like the nether, though the world would allow you to enter and mine to a point where you would then be alerted that you couldn't go any further. Then the people with access can go to that point and mine all they want, killing who they want.
Again, this probably can't be done, but the idea stems from the fact that right after you spawn in the mining world, you can't break anything til you get so far away. Thought maybe there was a way to make the further part of the mining world a PvP zone while keeping the rest the way it is.

 

First, nice necro ;)

Second, from what I have read, most people that want the Mining World to be PvP are the ones not looking for opponents... they're looking for victims. "I want to find people that are mining so I can sneak up behind them and murder them to steal everything they mined" is the most common. I have not been able to find anyone that expressed that they wanted to be mining and have someone kill them without warning. The "but I can be hired to PROTECT miners" is just a justification for the bullies to extort protection money.

Nether serves the "PvP in a gathering area" need. You must pay to get in, and you know before paying that the entire world (except for Spawn, of course) is PvP. The Mining World is where most non-farming Builders get their starting capital for ranking up. If they were "fair game for slaughter", then the Rising / Legacy Worlds would soon start to look like the area around Mining World Spawn. If you go into the Nether nekkid (as most Builders are for the first hour on ECC) and lose everything, it's your own fault.

 

I would like to point out that enabling pvp in the mining world would make it nearly impossible for someone to use an auto mining hack.


+1

 

First, to defend @Ladyvamptress, this is not a necro. Posts that are relevant are not categorized as necro. As this thread/discussion still exists, her post was not a necro. I don't think pvp should be added to the mining world. There would just be groups of 10 in prot4 running around and terrorizing new builders. Fair? Not really. Needed? Not really. So yea, bad idea imo.

 

@upmoon I would like to point out that pvp has nothing to do with that. Second of all, you can still do that in the rising world.

 

exil but if peeps are auto clicking there afk so they wont be able to defend them selves

 

You can't afk mine. I don't believe it is possible, combining movement, hitting, and targeting ores. Also, I believe discussing clients is illegal. I suggest we drop this subject.

 

To add on to what Exile said, if it's still up for discussion, it's not a necro. Anyway, seems like a good idea +1.

 

Yes, I agree that this is not REALLY a necro, thus the little winky "I'm acknowledging something that you did that looks like something else that we're not supposed to do, but you didn't really do it so we're good" face.

Also, what are we up / downvoting here?

does a "+1" mean you want PvP or think it's fine "as is"?

I always assumed that the "+1" or "-1" was toward the original post...

 

NO PVP IN MINING WORLD. CLEAR ENOUGH? GOOD.

 

I AGREE WITH NO PVP IN MINING. I THINK IT'S CLEAR! WHY ARe we shouting again? Now I'm confused again....