IGN: @rivercobber
Users Involved in this Contract:
@rivercobber @bombas123456
General Purpose of Contract:
loan
I (the contract initiator) agree to the following terms, and agree that my failure to complete such terms will result in a breach of contract, as outlined in Rule 3:
I @rivercobber will provide @bombas123456 a loan of $20,000 with in 5 min of this contract
The other user(s) involved with this contract must agree to the following terms:
@bombas123456 will return $22,000 to a sign in the town, rosebush located at X: 10728 Y: 64 Z: -971 to @rivercobber in rising no later than April 23 th, 2015 at 11:59pm EST.
I agree that the terms in this contract are subject to all of EcoCityCraft's rules, including the rules listed specifically in this forum. I understand that the contract may be affected by future changes in EcoCityCraft rules and server updates, and I accept that due to the possibility of such changes, this contract may be at my own risk. I understand that the contents of this contract are subject to staff assessment, review and approval before it is a binding contract under EcoCityCraft rules. I accept that action may not be taken in case of a breach of contract if appropriate and sufficient evidence is not provided of such.:
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rivercobber TycoonTycoon ⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade
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rivercobber TycoonTycoon ⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade
@bombas123456 can you agree again @bombas123456 I had to change the format on the contract and the I have made the due date longer
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bombas123456 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Mayor ⚒️⚒️
Edited to right format:
IGN: @bombas123456
I, as another party to this contract, agree to the terms laid out for me to uphold, and understand that failure to complete such terms will result in a breach of contract: Yes -
rivercobber TycoonTycoon ⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade
IGN:
I, as another party to this contract, agree to the terms laid out for me to uphold, and understand that failure to complete such terms will result in a breach of contract: -
bombas123456 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Mayor ⚒️⚒️
Recieved the money btw
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The original post in this thread does not conform to the proper contract template. @rivercobber Please edit to conform to the required template, after which @bombas123456 will have to re-agree.
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rivercobber TycoonTycoon ⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade
so refill one in
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SniperDawg PrésidentBuilder ⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade
@rivercobber, you may edit your original contract to the correct format. As answering your question 'so refill one in' edit your contract with the format posted below. Like @KMaxwell said, just edit it. No need to create a new thread. Also @bombas123456 please re-accept when the editing is done.
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rivercobber TycoonTycoon ⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade
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bombas123456 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Mayor ⚒️⚒️
IGN: @bombas123456
I, as another party to this contract, agree to the terms laid out for me to uphold, and understand that failure to complete such terms will result in a breach of contract: Yes
sry it took a bit to respond..... -
bombas123456 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Mayor ⚒️⚒️
@GMaxx sry its just been 2 days
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SniperDawg PrésidentBuilder ⛰️ Ex-EcoLeader ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade
@rivercobber could you please edit the contract and add what world the trade sign is located (rising/legacy). Also make sure all names are tagged.
@bombas123456 once the changes have been made and if your fine with the terms please re-accept. -
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bombas123456 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Mayor ⚒️⚒️
I, as another party to this contract, agree to the terms laid out for me to uphold, and understand that failure to complete such terms will result in a breach of contract: Yes
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After much discussion with other members of staff, we have determined that the following is not enforceable by contract:
"Consequences ... @bombas123456 will be removed from the town of rosebush and if@bombas123456 is banned for any reason all of @bombas123456 property will go to @rivercobber to the value of the outstanding amount"
Town permissions and claiming of property are rules already specifically defined in our Wiki, and a contract cannot supersede those rules. @rivercobber if you would like to remove this from the contract and then @bombas123456 agree in the correct format, everything else in the contract can be approved. -
rivercobber TycoonTycoon ⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade
@KMaxwell can you direct to the rule that says this please ty
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The rule can be found here, and I have copy/pasted them below as well. In short, a user's possessions cannot be forfeit as part of a contract as, should they be in a locked chest, for example, you would not be able to use the contract to LWC removal them.
Likewise with removal from the town, the eviction rules would apply, allowing them the time to gather their things from the town.
Additionally, to have consequences apply if the user is banned for any reason has absolutely nothing to do with this contract itself, just as being banned for another reason would not put the user in breach of this contract, unless they are banned at the time the contract comes due.
Clause 3 - Seizure of Property & 3 Day Eviction Notices
- By owning the town, a town Mayor has the right to remove you from the town at any time, for any reason, so long as the Mayor gives the user a 3 day eviction notice.
- An eviction notice may be given by in-game (either by PM or /mail) or by tagging evicted users in a thread in the Town Evicitions sub-forum within the Towns Discussion forum. It is not required to post a thread for any eviction, although it may be easier if you are evicting multiple users.
- The eviction notice must contain the name of the town. Be sure to collect evidence of this for LWC Removal Requests and/or proof should it be required at a later date. It is crucial that the screenshot has a timestamp (double tap f2).
- If the user being evicted has LWCs in the town and the Mayor intends to file an LWC Request to have them removed, the eviction notice must include a specific request that the user removes their locks within the 3 days.
- The evicted user must have had the opportunity to view the eviction notice. If the user has not been online, in-game or on the forums depending on how the eviction notice was issued, during the 3 day period then the eviction is not valid. The mayor or co-mayor must wait until the user is inactive (at least 7 days offline) or has been online to view to the notice before removing the user from the town or filing an LWC Removal Request.
- Only the Official Owner or the Legal Owner of the town may evict players who are region owners/co-mayors.
- However, under the following circumstances, the 3 day eviction criteria need not be met and the user may be removed from the town:
- A user is inactive (by staff standards, this means at least 7 days offline.)
- A user who has been banned for griefing in the town or warned by a staff member as a result of a Grief Report.
- LWCs in towns may only be removed with a request in the Staff Requests forum by the mayor or co-mayor of the town under the following circumstances:
- A user is inactive (by staff standards, this means at least 7 days offline.)
- A user has been issued a 3 day eviction notice that complies with the requirements above in Clause 3. Proof of the eviction notice must be provided.
- A user has been banned for Moderate+ grief in the town.
- A user has been requested to remove their locks via an eviction notice and has outrightly declined to do so (timestamped proof of declination to remove locks must be provided with the request.)
- Locks in the wild and locks belonging to the Official Owner of the town may not be removed.
- You may not block access to any locked belongings of the evicted user at any time. Staff will deny all requests in which the LWCs have been blocked in an attempt to protect items.
- If your request has been locked for this reason, you must re-issue the 3 day eviction notice and may only file a new LWC removal request once the 3 day eviction period has expired.
- If the player was not issued an eviction notice as they had been offline for 7+ days, then you must still wait 3 days before re-filing the request.
- If the town has the interact flag set to deny, players must still have perms to the town when the request is filed and may only be removed after a staff member has handled it. This is irrespective of whether the 3 day eviction period has ended.
- A player who has been removed from the town for griefing under Section 2, Clause 3 above (Being warned by a staff member or banned for griefing in the town as a result of a Grief Report) does not need to be left added to the town.
- Note: For a warning/ban for minor grief - A 3 day eviction notice must still be given under Section 2, Clause 3. During this time the player must still have the opportunity to collect their items. If necessary a town mayor can request the assistance of a staff member to supervise re-adding the player temporarily to collect their items to ensure that no further grief is committed.
- A player who has been removed from the town for griefing under Section 2, Clause 3 above (Being warned by a staff member or banned for griefing in the town as a result of a Grief Report) does not need to be left added to the town.
- By owning the town, a town Mayor has the right to remove you from the town at any time, for any reason, so long as the Mayor gives the user a 3 day eviction notice.
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rivercobber TycoonTycoon ⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade
so what you are telling me is there is no way to protect your self from wrong does and that i do not have a leg to stand on even with a contract its easy to get a big loan get banned and come back with on Consequences I will remove the part you want me to sorry if it sound like I having a go im not its the rules that make it easy to scam and the lack of Consequences is what Im not happy about ecc has contract's for and for everything but the most that happens is you get banned that's all im saying rant over
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rivercobber TycoonTycoon ⛰️⛰️⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Premium Upgrade
done
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If someone breaches a contract and is banned, then appeals, they will be required to pay you still as a condition of their unbanning. It is not without consequences for failing to pay back a loan, or to fail to uphold any other contracted deal.
@rivercobber the late fee section that you had in the contract clause before was acceptable, if you wish to re-add that as it was part of the contract, provided it is still within the agreement you have with @bombas123456. Should this edit be made, or the current version be final, we can have @bombas123456 post his agreement in the correct format for final approval by staff.
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