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Should we be more strict with title format on Complaints and Appeals?

  1. Yes, even locking the posts and asking them to repost with correct format.

    24.1%
  2. Yes, but only giving them a forum warning when they do it wrong.

    3.4%
  3. Yes, but only note it in the response to do it right next time.

    10.3%
  4. Yes, but only give it a bit more notice in the format thread.

    10.3%
  5. Yes, but we should do all of the above combined.

    6.9%
  6. No, it's not a big deal.

    37.9%
  7. No, it's not an issue, most people do it correctly.

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  8. No, people already have enough trouble with getting the format correct.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. I don't care either way.

    6.9%
  1. AgentHare Builder
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    You have selective hearing...
     
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    may - (verb). expressing possibility

    It isn't required.
     
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    Primzey! I was selling tp and he said ill tp then leave so I know you are not lying, so I let him tp and saying ok, you see it now plz go. He replied No noob I was /tpaccepted here and im not leaving and I didn't know what to do and know im here
     
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    im noob @ this site so if this was wrong place to complain I'm sorry and plz post MY complaint on the right place!

    Thank You!
     
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    Please keep the topic revelant to the original post please.
     
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    Haven't you ever heard someone use the word "may" in a command sentence?
     
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    since you seem to disagree with almost all counter arguements,

    I may buy a plot.
    may- I MIGHT buy a plot.

    you dont seem to know the definitions.
     
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    I dug up this quote from an online dictionary.

    Here's another one.

    Here's even more evidence for you.


    From this, since the format is a law-related thing, i believe these apply. Also in the last paragraph, this is a formal situation, therefor may is used instead of can.
     
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    No more point in countermarguements since you still seem to disagree and prove yourself again.
     
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    Erm, it looks like your giving up since my counter-posts were correct?

    No offense meant, just, that's what it looks like.


    Also, how did I disagree and prove myself again?
     
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    Jason has valid points, don't attack him on his disagreeing.

    I myself think this should be required, it makes the appeal/complaints section much more structure and it makes things a little bit easier for staff. Although, I don't think the username should be necessary, because we can see who wrote the post. But a simple [complaint], [ban request] or [ban appeal] Would really help.
     
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    Well if you put it that way, usernames on ban appeals aren't really needed, but usernames on complaints are better then mousing over it. It's much faster to skim down the list instead of moving your mouse, waiting 1 1/2 seconds, moving again, repeat.

    But still, even just getting a nice [ban appeal] and [complaint] would be a huge step up.
     
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    This is what my point was. The usernames shouldn't be required as long as they have a clear title that shows whether it is a complaint or a ban appeal.
     
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    The [Complaint] titles sure, but with the names..no. If it wasn't needed in the first place, I don't see why . A simple search or seeing what was written does the same thing.

    "You may pull the lever when ready"
    I read it as: You can pull the lever when ready. It's possible to pull the lever when ready.

    But as the rules say: "may be posted" I don't see how this can be a command. It's a mere suggestion, an exhort. Two staff members have said its not necessary to post the name.
     
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    Ban appeals, no, complaints, yes.

    Ban appeals, well, the poster is the guy appealing, rather obvious. But the guy making the complaint, he's not complaining on himself.

    It isn't just for searches, it's so players/mods can scroll down the list and see all the names.

    Also, I posted my dictionary searches of "may" above.
     
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    Please use the word "may" in a sentence where it implies that you MUST. Also, posting complaints shouldn't require a name. It's whether or not you're too lazy to read the complaint against the person.

    And if you're going to post about how it's easier for other people to scroll down and see who has complaints, have you ever been told not to judge a book by its cover? It's the same thing here. Just because someone has a complaint against a specific person, it doesn't mean that person broke any rule. In fact, the person filing the complaint could simply be mad and wanted to try and get the person banned. You would need to read and look at the evidence before you decide to trust them or not, simply looking at the title of a complaint can not tell you whether they have really scammed.
     
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    First of all, this has nothing to do about if the player is guilty or anything like that. It ONLY has to two with putting the correct format. And some people don't have time to read 30 complaints and simply want to see the interesting ones, and like I said, helps mods.

    And judging a book by it's cover? This has nothing to do with the player filing the complaint or the person getting complained on. Nothing to do with at all. Nope. Not a thing.

    Also, use the word may in a sentence where it's a command? You never replied to these:

    I have no need to write a sentence, since it's all right here.
     
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    No. If a dictionary definition had 5 meanings, it is not all 5 in context. Please explain how this context uses the command version? Why would andrew use a word that can cause confusion? It doesnt add up.
     
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    Most likely were splitting hairs. Andrew never posted "may" in there and though, "Ah-ha, this one will cause a huge debate down the road..."

    Sadly we can only speculate why he choose that word, or even if he just didn't think about it, and just happened to decide to type it. Unless Andrew posts "Yeah, "may" is there as in, you have an option" or he posts "Oh sorry, didn't mean to cause confusion, let me put "can" there."

    Or something else, we're splitting hairs.

    I still assume, since it's used in a law-situation, that he means it's a command. There's not usually an "optional" rule. The current trade rules say 3-5 mins, but really, who waits 5 minutes instead of 3?
     
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    In the context he puts it, it doesn't mean it is required.