Accepted [Main Server Suggestion] Redesign spawn

+0 the current spawn was designed to be more new-player friendly, also housing our market and blockshop. Now that market and blockshop have left the spawn, a redesign to fit ECC's current needs isn't a terrible thing.

I am giving a neutral +0 for two reasons:
1.) I am neither for nor against this suggestion. A new spawn to keep things fresh & useful is not something I am against, but the current one still does its job
2.) While this would be neat, there is A LOT of other things that would take precedent; a new spawn is a whole massive project and I rather this be denied while our current gamemodes and backburner projects get finished (like Skyblock for example). If those weren't already on the docket, I would +1 this, but seeing as how a new spawn project would probably not be viable for at least a year or more, I cannot grant that agreement

 

Not trying to come across as rude or anything, but are you volunteering to build the new spawn? Or how would you suggest one be created? And is this suggestion being made because there is a specific need that is not being met by the current spawn, or do you just not like it? I feel like we need more than "its trash and depressing."

I was on the staff team when the "old" spawn you mentioned was built, it was the product of a build competition which took months to plan, organize, and build. IIRC people formed teams to enter the competition, building their entries outside of ECC and then submitting a creative Minecraft world with their entry, which was then world-edited into ECC. And there were a bunch of specific rules/criteria that were in place for what had to be included, such as portal sizes/locations, space for block shops, nether, end, SG, etc. A new tutorial would have to be made. Sub-regions would have to be made, with new flags/rules programmed to each one. Flying around the current spawn, it looks like the spawn walls from previous builds wouldn't work because of some of the spawn towns, unless they're brought in 10-20 blocks they'd be right up against some of the builds.

I just say all of that because creating a new spawn would be a massive undertaking, and I think it would be unreasonable to expect Clar and the staff team to come up with a project of this complexity and magnitude, at least not without a good amount of help and support from the community. Perhaps (if upper admins are interested) there's a way to gauge interest from the community to see if this is wanted before going through all that work? More than just a thread in the suggestions forum, but a way to get input from the community as a whole involved.

 

I want to echo what @a_man21 said. I was on the current spawn’s build team. IIRC, that one took at least a couple months of dozens of builders to build in a separate, private, creative server. The reason we made a new spawn? Because the old spawn, the one you are saying to bring back, was inadequate to current ECC & the direction the server was going.

In short, no we cannot just copy/paste the old spawn. Even if we do want to use the old spawn, it will still take some time to retrofit it with what spawn has currently (the updated tutorial, world portals, parkour, etc).

If I didnt make myself clear in my last message, I’ll be blunt here: unless the current spawn is incapable of being the starting point and central hub for the entire main server, then we don’t need a new spawn. If it is not, the ONLY reason spawn could be redesigned is if there are no other major projects that Clar & the rest of the devs are working on and they decide to keep spawn fresh (which in that case would not warrant using old spawn)

 

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Looks absolutely fine to me, and the tutorial for new players is very extensive. Way to much work to remake all of that. Again. I say we are fine with the current spawn for now. It serves its purpose wonderfully.

 

I have never been a huge fan of this new spawn compared to the old one. It is a no brainer that I would love to have skyblock back before a new spawn - any day of the week