Make it illegal to kill horses

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  1. EvasivePeach3

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    Suggestion: Make it illegal to kill horses. Also Make it so you could lock the horse to know it is yours. You could be able to add trusted others to ride your horse if you wanted to.

    Reason: I am trying to open my horse riding business for all to ride but I'm to afraid people will kill my horses. Even though people might still try to kill horses, make it a ban-able offense.

    Any Other Information: This would be awesome if you did this.

    Link To This Plugin Jamie could maybe whip something up with his amazing dev skills
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    Why should we make it illegal to kill a mob in MC? I thought killing mobs was part of basic gameplay. And if you're now going to suggest making it so it's illegal to kill horses that aren't yours, how do determine who's the owner of the horse? Can I just claim a horse is mine and just file a complaint on someone for killing "my" horse? How does "horse claiming" work?

    Seems like there's too many variables and things that can go wrong with it. All this seemingly would do is just cause more drama and work for staff due to the immense amount of complaints about horse killing and ban appeals with players claiming they were wrongly banned for killing a horse (Which would be widespread under your proposed system, no way to prove that you "own" a horse.)

    If you're really concerned about keeping your horses safe, lock them up and only let people you trust use them. And if your horses do die, what's preventing you from getting a new one? The market has many horse eggs and /wild land has many horses.

    Anyway, if you're really into keeping your horses safe,suggest a horse lock plugin (There's lots of them out there. A simple search of bukkit or spigot should suffice). However an arbitrary rule will just cause more problems than it solves.
     
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    Its been brought up over and over again and I would like it but it's been made pretty clear that it won't happen as it is felt doing so would replace the need to buy pet horse.

    I think several solutions might work to meet in the middle. 1, is there anyway we could use the "lock" command on non hostile entities? Because that would mean that players who didn't "lock" the entity could not use the entity or kill it however it would not be immortal or replace the pet horse feature since it still features all the limitations vanilla horses have aside from being protected.

    My other idea is to make an interact deny flag that only denies interaction with mobs instead of mobs AND every chest door button what have you. Then you could only add users you trust to the ability to interact with your mobs.

    I think implementing some solution would be good for the economy, open up all sorts of horse related markets and activities. I'm not a bleeding heart here who would weep if my pixelated horse made of 0's and 1's gets killed but horses are damn expensive so any horse business is nearly impossible to open as is.

    To answer @UnitedStates2 the difference would be these animals exist in protected towns. Horses in the wild should be fair game. But protected towns, locked chests, these aren't normal parts of mc gameplay yet they are very integral to ecc. Being able to protect a mob in your town pretty much makes perfect sense when you could lock a damn dirt block if you wanted.
     
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  4. EvasivePeach3

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    *Edited. Also I don't have the money to keep buying new horses if they get killed.
     
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    I don't really see a need, you can get them locked up/ get a town flag. Plus it'd be difficult to track and what not -1
     
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    Smeefy you know I lock my horses up and have the interact deny flag ;/. I just really want to open ChestnutRidge to the public
     
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    Then it will be fine to open it, since you have the flag and lock them up.
     
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    If they are added to the town they can grief into the stalls and easily kill the horses. I wouldn't have to be so worried too.
     
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    You can choose who you add, just add those people you trust.
     
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    You don't know people's intentions. They might wait until you trust them and as soon as you add em and log off.. BOOM. All your horses dead.
     
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    But if this idea was implemented, are you suggesting someone should be banned for killing a wild horse?
     
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    I think that Peach means open the horses themselves to the public. Sell the ability to ride them. This would mean people could build racetracks which id love to. this would make income for the owner, income for players who won the race and open a whole field of betting on the races. That would be fun but it would also shake up the economy too.

    As is you can build racetracks and use deny flags but it has to be closed to public or you're making a ~13-15k+ bet that hopefully whoever shows up to participate won't go nuts and kill the horses for fun. That makes it impossible to maintain public equestrian towns.

    It would be beneficial and fun to implement a better way to do this.
     
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    Only for killing a horse someone has claimed.
     
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    You guys have no idea how many people ask to be added to the town. Even some of my friends and 2 family members play this server but I don't know their intentions. (Family members I can trust but I'm just trying to prove a point)
     
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    This is when the idea of "locking" the identity really would be the ideal solution as most everyone has limited locks (and special mob locks could have an even tighter limit to avoid abuse). If you could "lock" a horse like you could a dirt block no one would be banned because no one could "break" them.
     
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    Only my bffs are able to ride the horses as seen here (btw my voice didn't record in this. You might be able to hear my voice in a small echo.) I was going to open this race to the public but I got to nervous and backed out
     
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    I think this is a GREAT idea. Too many horses of her's have been killed. I know that. She wants everyone to be able to ride her horses, but she can't trust anyone. Someone who's added to the town can grief into the stables and kill them. If she adds only people she trusts, someone could gain her trust and then backstab her, next thing you know BAM horses killed. Think of it this way. You have a horse you've had ever since the beginning of your ECC days. One day, someone comes along and kills it. How would you feel? DONT say you wont care because you will. you'll miss everything about the horse. THAT'S WHAT SHES AFRAID OF!! So if this becomes official, it won't just benifit Peachy, but the entire server as well.


    Thank you for taking your time to read this message,:)
     
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    I don't really see the point in this suggestion when you can just get a town flag that means people can't hit or do any damage to animals in towns, which is almost the same thing as you are suggesting here.



    If this suggestion is to be able to lock animals, then the main point of this specific town flag is removed. So, don't really see the point of this when this flag is available. If people killing your horses is that much of a problem, just buy the town flag.
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    Well, first of all I do not see how this can be enforced to be honest and I don't see a reason for it to be enforced.
    If you do not want animals to be killed in your town, getting a town flag is sufficient.
    Next point is why is this suggestion about horses only? Why not cows, sheep or (mountain) chickens.

    Overall, I believe that while it is not nice for a user to kill my lovely lovely horse, it cannot be enforced.

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    Have a potato.
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