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  1. iorbit Builder
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    Melon

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    Current Price:
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    Suggested Price:
    Original $2

    Brief Description:
    You get this item by mostly Melon farming with a melon sword.

    Open Discussion:
    Currently, a 500K tool (Melon sword) makes as much as a 6K tool (Pump axe). This means melons and pumpkins make the same money (From Kuke's calculations). I believe that either pumpkins should get a nerf or melons a buff. It is completely unfair how Miners have such a big advantage over farmers. A miner can make up to 30K if lucky an hour, whilst a farmer can make 17.5K sweating off concentration. Obviously there is something wrong and it needs to be fixed.
     
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    I would love this if the price would go up, however this isn't possible imo. The more people join (likely) the more prices go down. If somehow people start quitting and no new players coming, the prices MAY go up. I think the only possible thing is to nerf pumpkins and if you want mining to be equal as melons, they can nerf mining.
     
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    This makes absolutely no sense. I fail to understand why more people = Less money an hour? Through out my nearly two years of playing I've never seen this happening.

    The reason it needs a price buff is because of how a Eff7 makes a hell a lot more than a MSword. There needs to be a solution such as making melon swords a 15k item, nerf Eff7 mining and Pumpkin farming at the same time.

    There is a huge unbalance.
     
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    The more people on, the more work they do, the more money they get from server and the more money is in the economy.
     
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    People don't work any harder when there are more people on the server. The amount of people on the server has nothing to do with this suggestion. This suggestion is based on the fact that spending 500k on a tool to harvest melons yields the same income as harvesting pumpkins with a 6k tool.
     
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    I think what ice5 is getting at is that if the price increases, the money coming into the server increases, and as more players obtain a melon sword, even more money comes into the server, causing inflation. Pumpkins are nerfed badly enough, and will the current block lag that had come with 1.7, it is almost impossible to farm pumpkin efficiently. Many melon swords were bought at the 300k mark which is why they make less money than eff 7 which have always been worth 1500 nstars.
     
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    Agreed, I can make about $25k per hour of mining easy, WITHOUT an Eff7. Eff7 might factor into this suggestion.
     
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    is it true that melons and pumpkins can make the same amount per hour? Is that accounting for the price and quality of donations needed for pumpkin (fly)
     
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    This doesn't make sense still. Even 300K, nonetheless is still lot of money. Why would you waste 300K when you can waste 6K can get the same results? I fail to comprehend this. It makes absolute no sense.

    Plus, even if Eff7's were always 500K+ it still seems fairly unfair miners get a huge amounts of money comparing to farmers. Personally I can't stand mining, I can farm all day long, but ten minutes of mining for me is a sacrifice. It is aggravating how I put the same effort into something (500K) yet I get worst results because I like to the something else better.
     
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    Yes, both of these can make the same.
     
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    Can kuke confirm?
     
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    I can confirm. Just note that pumpkins require fly and ext commands+ for efficient farming. Seeing as it's instabreak, your tool breaks rather quickly and cuts down on profit when you don't have repair yourself.
     
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    It has been confirmed :3

    However, the still big difference from 6K to 500K doesn't compensate imo.
     
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    +1 as of now melon sword are only useful to flip. I do farm with them sometimes because I lag too bad with pumpkins without optifine.
     
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    I think you need to read Kuke's post again. One, or all three (considering to get ExtCmds+, it is two donations) donations. Pumpkin isn't simply 6k for farming - it is more.

    You need to add on what is needed for EFFICIENT pumpkin farming to plainly state the price it costs to pumpkin farm. Just buying a 6k tool won't do you any good, or be anywhere near melons if you cannot fly or repair yourself (or have a dedicated, always-online person to do it for you).

    Also note that fly and ExtCmds+ cost real money, not EcoDollars - sure, you can pay for them in ECD, but technically, they ARE real money.

    I don't know what exactly is needed for melons (e-repair and sprinting?), but in many past price suggestion threads, people generally ended up concluding that it, in one way or another, costed more - stable, less fluctuation - to efficiently pumpkin farm.

    Personally, I say lower pumpkin prices, rather than increasing melons. I've usually seen more inflation/more difficulty dumping money when something is increased, because it actually adds more to the economy... Lowering a price won't add more, at least, and can "more easily" be bumped back up if it isn't right.
     
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    well kuke also made 34k in 1 hour off of wheat so its calculations could be wrong :/
     
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    TL,DR

    Pumpkin axes can make more than a melon sword with certain attachments. To make more, you NEED fly (300,000 ECD or $60), and Ext.Commands+ for E-repairs (500,000 ECD or $100). 300,000 + 500,000 > 500,000.
     
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    Moofink you say that the best option is to reduce pumpkin prices. Pumpkins are currently 50 cents each. And I make just over 2k before having to repair my axe, reducing my profits by $200 each time. Then you must factor in the time it takes to get the tool repaired. If I were to get e-repair it would cost me 600k, I would be better off with a melon sword.
     
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    so what is your opinion on the suggestion in the OP?
    Is it kosher the way that it is? Or should Melons be upped?
    Or does the preface for this post being the fluctuating price of nstars make it a moot point?
     
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