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No More Secret Unannounced Rule ChangesWhat are you suggesting:
Tell people other than staff when rules are changed. Preferably via general discussion.Why is this a good addition for EcoCityCraft?:
Friday morning, the server rules were materially changed:Other information:
However, no announcement was posted in general suggestion (as the SAs stated they would do in the future). In fact, the change was not even mentioned in the discord #news channel. Staff, however, did attempt to enforce this rule change.
It's unrealistic to expect players to read the server rules in their entirety before they log in, every time they play.
This change did end up being reverted, changing the rules secretly a second time. This still sets a precedent, however, and not a good one.
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OConner1279 PresidentPresident ⛰️⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️ Prestige ⭐ I ⭐
+1 shouldn't be that hard for someone to throw a message in discord, particularly if staff are going to be instructed to enforce that rule and thus notified about the changes.
Also, just wondering, why are the rules screenshotted in code format in the suggestion? More importantly, we are they different colors if they have the same rgb values :/
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+1, its malicious to enforce a rule change that wasnt even announced. Start announcing when you change things in the rules, even if it seems minor.
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Plus the change was vague and even staff were uninformed on how to handle certain situations-
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The rgb indicates the color of the text visible on the wiki-page itself, since the text color isn't being changed the rgb value remains the same.
Anyway, I won't derail the suggestion anymore.
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+1, if u want rules to be enforced, the community needs to know the rules to begin with.
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Maybe a solution would be to post what was discussed and implemented from the Staff Meetings from week to week?
A bit like when there was a update to the old wiki, there was a thread people posted in when things were updated.
That way the community can see what is being discussed and implemented. And also come to staff if you have any concerns or suggestions you'd like to raise at these meetings?-
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In terms of the suggestion, yes, rule changes should be made public to the player base. -
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And I don't see a issue with that level of transparency with the community, afterall, we are all here to play together and enjoy the experience, so everyone should know whats discussed and what being worked on.
If there are some things that really need to be kept private for the sake of security and other things, then ofc they would be omitted from the update post.
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Regarding the transparency, don't get me wrong: I absolutely agree with you. 100%. Transparency builds community trust, which ultimately is what is needed most to run the community.
The only reason I'm saying it's not what I'm asking for here is to underscore the incredibly low bar I'm asking the administration to clear.
More transparency is better and I'll take as much as I can get.-
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There was a breakdown in communication with this one and we apologize for that. It wasn't meant to be a rule change, more of a clarification for staff on how to handle people spamming trade with ads for the same service (eg 5 people spamming "join sg 2" or something similar). We explained it poorly and because of this a couple staff members didn't enforce it as intended, but that is not their fault at all. Apologies again for the mistake, and appreciate the response.
We have been looking into ways to get more transparency between staff and the players and we'll hopefully be rolling that out either this week or next, we'll contact those who are interested to get some feedback on it just to get your views on it so hopefully it can work as intended! Send either SA a DM on Discord if you are interested and we'll get you together in a group chat to talk about it.
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