Most of our new comers are builders. Those builders usually come to play sg. When they play sg they notice there are kitters. When there are kitters they rage. When they rage they quit. When they quit dcc lose potential donation features. When ECC loses potential donation features andrewkm gets mad. Don't make andrewkm mad, stop kits.

 

@Aqqel

But... But... I like kittens :(

 

lmao oops fixed xD

 

OH YES +1 kitters stop QQ abut it

 

-1

 

The people that -1 this thread are the ones at the top of the SG leaderboard because of kits or because they earn their income from Hunger Games because they have MIQ++ Spy++ and Bfr++ and they kill all the little non-kitters. They don't want to lose their position/income. This will be a great idea such as use the Legacy Survival Games Board as 8 non-kit arenas.
+11

 

the people that +1 this thread are the ones at the bottom of the sg leaderboard because they dont have kits or because they dont earn their income from hg because they dont have miq++ spy++ bfrp++ @TheN00BISHPanda

 

Actually I -1 this because it simply won't happen ._. There are literally a dozen suggestions that are exactly the same and NONE were even considered or taken seriously by staff or owner. It's a income to the server having kits and frankly it won't change unless donations stop.

 

woman's right to vote was declined in 1700s but added in 1900s. Why? because people fight for it and times can change

 

True, because we don't dedicate are life to buffer++ miq++ or spy++ and we don't go tryhard and think we are "the sh**" because we killed ten builders in one game with buffer miq and spy

 

Yes, because our opinion is this way solely because we are "at the bottom of the leaderboard". Get over yourself.
All these kits harm the server in a pretty harsh way. The majority of the builders who come to play SG leave straight away, simply because they are forced to play in a pay2win environment on ECC. If we have an arena where you can play without kits, then maybe SG will be a bit more lively and builders who come for SG won't just quit after 1-2 matches because kits ruined the game.

 

Untrue don't go history on me lol.

This is not a democracy Andrew is nice to let us have this suggestion sub-fourm he doesn't have to listen his word is the ultimate say here and he's already made it clear this won't happen. He's not the person to collapse under pressure if he said no its no stop bring it up.

thats what I'm saying ^~^

 

Andrew changes his mind often enough. A well put argument can change a lot. So just because it didn't happen in the past, doesn't mean it won't happen now. The past does not necesarily repeat itself, so don't write off a suggestion solely because it got denied in the past.

 

+1000000000

 

6 similar post suggestions is not an argument it's demanding. At least have the common educate to wait before suggesting the exact same argument again.

 

The amount of suggestions about it and people supporting it can make a great difference in the impact the suggestions has on andrew. Andrew wants to keep the majority of his users happy, if the majority isn't happy, then that means something's wrong.

So like I said, don't write a suggestion off solely because it's been denied in the past. Or even if it's been suggested a lot.

 

The people who support this are just that, the only ones who really want it. They are the ones who suggested it in the past too. Notice u don't see extremely prominent SGers even commenting but a few. It's because they know as do I and others that it won't happen as of now.

With the scare of losing donations TONS of people flooded SG kits promoting the server incredibly. Why would Andrew give that up? Why would u want to take money out of the server? That's why we have SG competition to promote kits.

I'm not saying I promote kits but I'm saying he's denying your suggestions for a reason. Try to look at both sides and then make a counter don't just keep spamming the exact same arguments or still generalize it.

If u want a change wait and bide your time the sacre of losing donations and the competition hipe is still fresh this is the worst time to suggest this. See what I'm saying? Fight for your cause but plan it first.

 

Did you read my post in this thread? I thought of a compromis where the impact this has on kitters is practically nothing.
We're not all spamming the same arguments, so before you generalize like that, read the posts.

Also note that the problem is the fact that "prominent SGers" are loaded with kits. The problem is that the non-promiment SGers, the ones that aren't loaded with kits, which is a VAST MAJORITY, are forced to buy kits just to be able to get a chance at winning the game. They aren't even given the oppurtunity to play in an arena without kits.
Those same "prominent SGers" also don't want this to happen because THEY THINK IT HURTS THEIR PROFIT MADE FROM WRECKING BUILDERS WITH OP KITS.

SG is fundamentally broken, we know it won't be fixed, but we at least want a compromis so we can continue to play SG on ECC without being forced to pay big buck to win.

Also, I don't care if they think it won't happen, it HAS TO HAPPEN. So until it happens, this will continue to be suggested and this will continue to be "spammed". Maybe andrew will some day consider adding it, even if it doesn't happen now, it may happen in the future. Like it has with multiple previous suggestions. (like Mcmmo, andrew said he would never add that 3 years ago. Well, look at us now, we have McMMO)

 

It's cute, you tell me to read your post when you don't read mine. You failed to mention anything about the huge influx of donations these past few weeks.

In your post all I see is ranting. The ONLY viable problem you mentioned was builders getting mad and non-kitters getting mad. You say that people will just rage quit and not play SG but the huge impact the SG competition had on donations completely blew your argument out of the water because DOZENS of people donated it was huge the server made so much money it was great.

U can't just make a separate arena it defeats the purpose of buying kits u may argue it doesn't but it's a load of kitten farts everyone know it would that's why it's being suggested.
players will just use that arena and once builders find out they will just use that one too. Then you will just try to covertly change it all to non-kits or at least try too.

Ranting IT HAS TO HAPPEN! doesn't mean anything if you can't back it up against actual problems taking kits away will cause and the pros they have on the server.

Server income, kitter aadvantage, and choosing to SG are things that the individual player decides to support. Ranting and trying to get builders to support u by taking their side it fine but u have to start looking at what this server is about why it was created to make money "hard core economy server" fairness and equality is good but unless you actually find good arguments all your work means nothing.

Little things (this is directed at u) like renaming SG it's just little rebellious acts that just make Andrew laugh (as u can see by his comment and lock of your thread)

if u want something to change be the change don't leave yourself open to a bunch of holes to be punched in your argument like I just did. I have nothing against u at all I admire u want equality so much but if someone that agrees with u can stop your argument imagen someone who doesn't agree with u like Andrew thinks?

If you make a convincing argument to a dress ALL the issues instead of sticking to one and holding on as the ship sinks I'll support u fully and defend it.

However as of now your argument is just ranting. The good to the server completely out weights this being enacted any time soon.

Thats the truth in this situation and u know it.

 

If I got $1 for every time I see a thread like this... I'd be a millionaire.