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  1. kukelekuuk C͕̹̲̽ͪ͐ͩ̔L̜̦̝͈ͦ̿̾̿ḘA̻̗̤̳̐ͭ̆̿̃̑ͭN̊̓͑̇ͯ
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    But the same would count for many other amazing towns, anything that looks amazing and imposing will catch people's attention and make them stay on the server, this is not only the case for Wolvie's museum.
     
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    And that it only has 2D art in it? I'm fairly certain all those towns your referring to are multipurpose as a partial town that happens to have pixel art in it. So... there not even close to a Unique idea.
    That and there Art is nothing in comparison to mine. (2D Only ~ I Don't do 3D).
     
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    Yea that's what I was aiming for, like how Nether and Aether both got there own Unique Sort of Area in the Spawn Location~ I want to get one of those for my Pixel Art (There's Plenty of Room)
    I don't want to be just another HUB with some shiny blocks around it (Which is crap) lol.
     
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    I've seen at least two towns dedicated to 2d pixel art, no partial towns, actual strips of pixelart all over the town, though, this was like a year ago, maybe not as organized as your towns, but it's the same idea.
     
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    See, it doesn't need to be right at spawn, it can be in a portal that leads to maybe 10 different unique towns.
     
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    I support this! It is amazing, awesome and HUGE!
     
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    I like this idea as I think it would attract more users to the server, but what about other people?

    Videowiz has been working on an amazing castle. Don't you think we should shed some light on his work too?
     
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    Yeah...I really don't like siding with kuke. But he is correct. There are many many many (can't stress enough) things on ECC that are awesome. Some not as good as yours, some better.

    Creating a portal just to your town seems...well, a bit selfish. If we were to do this, next thing you'd know there would be 50 other guys saying they want their own town portal because they did this and that and they have this.

    Even creating a Hub to cool towns would be a bit picky. Due to the giant amount of awesome stuff, people would get offended that they didn't get picked and ect.

    I mean, kuke has a good point, and I'm gonna have to stick to it.
     
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    You know the difference between my town and kuke's town?...
    I've spent over a year and a half on my town. I'd be surprised if kuke spent any more than a week on his.
    Kuke makes super projects all the time, while they look nice; there usually cheap and quickly made (wood) ~ also he never finishes them, he gets bored or throws his funding in lotto and moves on.

    My Pixel art Museum is not something that is easy to make or replicate to the level I've created it. Everyone on this server makes towns and you know what... there's so many 'towns' now that everyone thinks its the only thing you can do with your region. I want to show it isn't, while its true there are users who are making cool stuff like the Castle' that's being built, they aren't the ones asking for a spawn portal~ they clearly don't want one or some underlying reason. My Museum is something nice you can look around at ~ something awesome to view. Something that everyone can enjoy and no-one can honestly deny its greatness.

    Imagine for a moment that someone like Notch or Jeb were to come onto our server... what could we show them at spawn?

    They can't enter Aether
    They can't enter Nether
    They can't do jack crap in real world because there's towns for a couple hundred thousand blocks
    They can enter the mining world but hey~ its just a normal world. (One that's been grieved to crap around it's spawn)
    Maybe' they'll go for a stroll through the market place? ~ just to find they can't afford anything.
    Maybe they can take a stroll through the spawn towns? Ones a hole (with water in it)... Ones a Trade District.. Another a decent town... So the problem here is we have nothing to truly show off the server at spawn that people can use and see for free.

    Is what I'm doing Selfish? Of-course but its about time that ECC showed some of its coolest stuff off.
    (Things that don't cost 50,000 ECD To view).
    Bring back the word Free to ECC!
     
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    I somewhat Agree, however that doesnt mean your town should get a special portal at spawn, that nobody else should be able to get.

    Possibly propose the following;

    Around one of the open area's at spawn, a mini "Portal area" will be built, this area will be known as "Featured Towns" or "Vip Towns", the portals to these can be purchased weekly/monthly, with limited spots (5-10), with the cost at maybe 20-40k a week. This takes money out of our economy constantly, however it will also give new players a view on some of our awesome towns.

    That is the only thing I could agree on, I do not feel that ANY town is special enough to have a portal right at spawn. Anyway we have some of tommy_t's amazing builds at spawn/near it aswell, and wallstreet is not just shops, its looks too.
     
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    We used to have one of these... one that I paid for no less... guess what happened to it? we all got funneled into Spawn...
    This idea clearly worked.. Sorry bro this idea doesn't work. It's been tried before and It didn't work out... And the fact to charge the users of these towns to get portals is stupid... If we make something truly amazing we're clearly not making profit off it~ An epic Castle wouldn't be selling plots... you know my point...?
    So this is draining the pockets of whoever owns the town. (This isn't cool).

    Ontop of this~ I know that some users (Like Tommy_T) Wouldn't want people walking around his shady mountain all the time. (even though it looks great... he doesn't want randoms there). Assuming that people want there super structures to be shown off to everyone isn't correct.
     
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    Well, nobody will just get there town into spawn, our spawn already has some great builds in it. I do not feel that it is fair that your town could have a portal right at spawn, while lets say my town can't. It would be unfair, and seem as if andrew or wewin were picking favorites. Our spawn has plenty of builds such as; andrewkm's mansion, the area where warp for mining portal is, the aether rocket, all the statues, the portal area for nether, and more.

    The other thing I would/may agree with is;

    Andrewkm, or wewin start the whole town featuring thing again, and those towns who are featured get a town portal for lets say a few weeks (2 or so). However I am still, and will always be against having town portals right at spawn, especially if it is free, and others do not have the chance to get one aswell.
     
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    Where is this assumptions Others couldn't get these Kinds of Portals at spawn coming from?
    There is Plenty of Space ~ Its just a matter of if your works actually any good.
    My Portal doesn't have to be on the floor~ I can make it in the Sky and Make a simple area like a Lift Sign on floor.
    Also These "Great" works at spawn can't be used unless u pay for the right to use them making nothing at spawn free.
    So if your walking around spawn there's nothing you can actually do.

    Or a better Question... Why not move spawn to a new location and Expand its size so that OTHERS can have spawn based things? Sorta like how you buy a market place plot we could expand spawn and designate area's around the edges for peoples Region's of coolness where they can make a cool area like the Nether or Aether area's that lead into their respective portals?...

    "What About the current spawn towns?" I hear you say... Why not put them in after Spawn is expanded? It's been done before... why not do it again?

    All this being said~ I know myself and about 9 other users that would be ecstatic to remake spawn ~ we would make it more roomier ~ Less spacious and more interesting.
     
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    Well if your thinking about kinda "plots" at spawn, the following plugin may work, or something similar; http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/plotme/

    I personally think that we should just do VIP portals, and maybe handle them like this;

    All the staff are able to look around at towns, and have a post where we vote on towns, and maybe once or twice a week we pick out two, whose towns then get a spot at the VIP portal area for lets say 2 weeks, all that andrewkm/wewinagain would have to do is verify the town is right, and place the portal. I personal enjoy this much better than having spawn relocated. Although a new spawn area would be nice/unique.... Either way I feel VIP Portal area's would be amazing/great.
     
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    1. The assumption comes from the fact you've been focusing on your town the entire time.....

    2. "Year and a half" You mean a few weeks each time you come back to the server after either getting banned or leaving out of rage?

    3. You -really- shouldn't insult others work when trying to get yourself into an area like spawn.

    May I ask you a few things? In all honesty, What makes you think that your pixel-art is deserving of a --SPAWN PORTAL-- when no other users creation in the [History] of Ecocitycraft has ever gotten a portal inside of spawn for their creations?

    What gain would giving you more business have to the server itself? Since, as we all know, what you'll be getting out of this is attention and money. I can already see you saying "Well i have a portal in spawn for my work, so your work must not be as good" as fodder for arguments, and that is the absolute last thing anyone wants to see in chat; more gloating.

    Is there something besides a bit of aesthetic pleasure which makes it so deserving of a portal at spawn besides the fact that you like your own work that would make it above every other creation in E.C.C history? Above the likes of the great cities and creations of ECC, From Aurora by Dylnordstrom to the massive cities created, what makes your pixel-art better than everyone else's?

    Why should we move spawn and all of the towns around it(causing hours, if not days, of headache for Andrew/Wewin, possibly corrupting the world like last time)? "Spawn being expanded" only happened once, a --very-- long time ago, and it was only expanded a few blocks outward.

    These are all legitamate questions I'd really like an answer to. In the end, though, you need to remember that this is an [Economy] server, and while we do strive to have nice things, the focus of the server is not nice creations, but the economy. In all honesty, you knew the answer to this thread before you even posted it; It won't happen. If anything like this were to ever happen, it'd be the absolute last thing on Andy's list.
     
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    I support this hope you get it and I would like to see this.
     
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    Okay, this may be a not so happy response but, here goes.

    Let me first say I love your gallery. I have artwork in your gallery and thus I adore it. I do not however believe that your towns alone should be showcased at spawn. I believe that would be showing extreme favoritism by Andrewkm. I agree that there are towns, yours included, that should be showcased but I do not believe a single person's projects should be it.

    Here is my suggestion. Make a section of spawn called something like "ECC Showcase." The portal goes to a room of 10 or so portals. AndrewKM makes a thread for town nominations to be in that portal room. Every month the room can change if a different series of towns are nominated. The towns MUST already have their own portals. The point of this is to showcase the many fantastic things on ECC. I don't just mean Pixel Art but towns that are well made or beautiful. Example: Tommy_T's multi-town palace, Wolvie's Pixel Art, WonderLand. All of these places are fantastic and should be showcased.
     
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    Why are you using me as an example? I'm a really bad example, I'm a lazy builder who's addicted to the lotto. (Though this time around I managed to evade the lotto)
    I'm not the only person who builds things, you're just using me as an example to 1, criticize me (I don't appreciate it) 2, show people the bad side of things.
    You're not even trying to acknowledge the fact that there are amazing towns out there, take OuterLocal's towns for example, they're simply towns, but they're fricking amazing, my towns aren't even in the same league as his towns, but I'm sure you've never even bothered to think about towns that don't fit your vision of "crappy/unoriginal towns".
     
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    1. The Idea started with "My Town". Had you bothered to read all the extra comments you'd realize that the topic evolved into some form of another way to show off lots of epic towns not just mine.

    2. I've never left of Rage and I've only been banned twice I believe, how about you get your facts correct before trying to discredit me as a user? I Lost 3 mill in lotto and Didn't ragequit. This point is complete rubbish, clearly your angst against me is causing your post and your opinion to not only be bias but to be incorrect.

    3. You see it as an Insult, for that I'm sorry. I was comparing my project to things that I indeed think are good, if you've taken it the other way around that's your own perspective and I cannot do anything about that. Whilst I do think there good I think my Museum is better (Which is my opinion and I'm entitled to it).

    4. Why can't users have a spawn portal? Or something like the idea appears to be evolving into. Your Logic appears to be that If we don't have something~ it shouldn't be on ECC Because we don't already have it.

    5. I don't make money from my Pixel art unless I have wool stored up from previous projects. So now to deal with the rest of your argument. Its true, I want this for the simple fact of "Gloating" And saying "Well i have a portal in spawn for my work, so your work must not be as good" is you being extremely bias. You got half the server to call you "Dear Leader" And you brag that your one of ECC'd longest running members... So what your saying is that it's OK for you to Gloat but no-one else? is this the Gist of what your saying?

    6. My Pixel art isn't better than "Everyone" Else's things, however my idea started out with me thinking about my town... is that wrong? Perhaps, but an idea has to start somewhere... this now would be a conversation of how to refine and DE-fine the idea to the point we can appropriately implement it for all users on ECC with Epic creations. (I'm not every user so my mind doesn't immediately jump to "How can others get this too". That's why I suggest it and rely on you guys to help me fix it up.

    7. Maybe we don't have to move spawn? Why not do something like the Market Place? ... Have a single portal at spawn and it leads to another area where we can make spots like Aether or Nether have and than just have a Portal leading to these places of Awesomeness. So people can pick and choose based on that instead of just looking at a series of portals and going into the nearest one and working out whats inside it.

    8. If the server wasn't appealing there wouldn't be a community for "Economy" so having nice things at spawn would make it cooler, more fun and thus attract more people, Your ignorant if you think the server attracts users just by being a server. "In all honesty, you knew the answer to this thread before you even posted it; It won't happen. If anything like this were to ever happen, it'd be the absolute last thing on Andy's list." This is Utter rubbish~ you said this about /Fly, I bet you said this about /feed.
    You can go live in your hole and dream of the dirt your standing on but some of us like to look at the stars and wonder. I don't believe this idea is impossible. I believe the way I've originally defined it might be impossible now, but I feel with help we can refine the idea and get it to the point It can work.

    P.s. Kuke, as a SuperModerator / Moderator Etc. You get to travel around a bit more talking to users and seeing there creations. I'm usually on during Offpeak and These "Epic" Creations don't have portals / users aren't on so Alot of them I never can see, Alot I don't know about. (which is why I'm trying to get this suggestion pushed through).

    Also; I used you guys as examples because I do like your works, if you read my point backwards and got offended by it I'm sorry. But If I didn't think your creations were worth my time... I wouldn't have mentioned them at all.
     
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