I don’t see the problem as leaves are worth 1, I think it being a value of 1 is no problem, if someone wants to waste their time and make their island ugly for that then go at it, it’d be easier just to spam water and lava to make stone stacks for levels

 

I see the potential for ice to become an issue, but at 1 it is only slightly better than cobblestone. While it is easy to produce, those dedicated can do the same with cobble. There are very fast cobble generators; that cobble can be made into furnaces for a gain of 2 points (8 cobble at 1 point each making 1 furnace at 10 points). Furnaces can be placed en masse. A 63 block cube of furnaces would exceed island level 10,000.

 

However, you can't even create a full 8x8x8 cube of furnaces because they are tile entities and therefore limited to 500, i.e. a maximum of 20 levels instead of 10,000.

https://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/wiki/skyblock-entity-limits

 

I see no reason to lower ice to 0. Make it worth something so efforts aren’t wasted. No one wants to play a game that is too limited and too hard to get anywhere. I’ve seen people gain over 300 levels in just 30 min or less doing the lava to cobble thing. I’ve heard other people mass produced obby to get a ton of levels. Heck people use vines to get easy levels. There are many easy ways to gain levels, but at the end of the day, that’s the point.

 

In my opinion you can create cobble almost as fast as ice unless I’m missing something... I’ve seen smooth stone generators that produce 5-6 stacks in a min just standing in one place. Granted it requires a silk pick, but to mass produce ice you really need the same and stone is worth 2 points.

Again maybe I’m missing something but I seriously never even thought of using ice since my stone generator does more with less effort. I’m confused as to why it is so OP? If that’s the case then stone and cobble are kinda OP as well by that logic.

 

Ok so u say its easy to get well u need to 1 place the water then 2 u need to change biome which can mess up more shit and plus we have a cap of 15k/ hour so how would that make money easily, u can make that 15 levels easily without ice ? the levels factor well 2 bad it doesnt mean it should be made 0? 1 is pretty bad it was 5 b4 andrew ruined it (wc?)
-1 for sure

 

And making things worthless and making it too hard also takes the fun out of it. Like koko said, the ice value was lowered to 1. It doesn’t need to be lowered further. In your suggestion you talk about how ice was banned on aem, but this is ecc and the value was recently lowered... give it some time and see how it goes at 1.

 

I assume someone must be doing this and that is why it is a discussion?

Again... I’m confused as to how the use of Ice at 1 point is more OP then anything else... I would be curious to see an example of someone who may be using this technique. Do you make rows of “still” water and just break the rows of blocks in between and the repeat each level? Honestly that seems like the same amount of work to accomplish as anything else I’ve seen being done.

The realality is this... someone will always find something that makes it easier and faster... are we planning on changing things every time this happens? There is always going to be someone who figures out advantages. Good for them... if they want their island to look like a mess that’s their choice. Eventually they will have to go through the trouble of removing those blocks.

If Skyblock is just about filling a huge void with blocks then I’m not interested in what my levels are. I’m happy just building... improving my output... and completing challenges. I don’t care what happens beyond that. If that’s what someone else wants to do then by all means let em do it.

 

I swear people say make Skyblock easier and then in turn make it hardcore when it suites...
*shrugs*

Doesn't seem any harder to do vines or cobble/lava walls then to do ice so eh, anyway, didn't this already got changed recently going down from like 5 to 0 to 1? Does it really need changing again...
-1

 

I agree here... make the ice like 0.5 or something less but at least something.

 

This would be a huge slap in the face to everyone who spent countless hours making island levels. Continually changing things like this after people have spent time and effort into them will make people not want to play skyblock or spend money on a server that changes this drastically with no compensation for lost time.

 

So why does it ruin the fun for u? we are gaining levels do u do this to gain levels ? if so u can also do what we do its a way to get levels it may be the easy way but eventually higher value blocks are better as of their value and how many blocks they take Although cobble/vines/ice gives fast levels on the long run high value blocks like iron/gold/diamonds etc are more worth it so why nerf ice? whats the use no use it was nerfed from 5 to 0 then from 0 to 1 and 1 seems pretty fair just like cobble which is worth 1

 

As i said we do get alot of levels from cobble but since islands dont go on for ever u have a cap of how many blocks u can place and that stops us from going to level 1 mil with cobble u can beat us over time yes with all 16 iron farms working at all times yes u can but it would take time as over time we wont have place for more cobble which means we cant get more levels

 

If you only have fun when others are playing by a strict set of purist rules so that you may compare yourself to them, you will have little fun in games and in life.

Skyblock isn't a beauty contest. If you want to build visually appealing structures do so. However, don't try to force that play method onto others as the only viable option.

Opinion.

In conclusion, skyblock resets yearly. Why would most take the time to build intricate works for them to be wiped away? It is mostly about one's island level and the potential for prestige. This makes it more attainable for those with less time.