Item/Rank/Feature:
Logs.
Data Value:
Current Price:
$0.20
Suggested Price:
$0.30+
Brief Description:
Now let me start off by saying, woodcutting SHOULD be more then pumpkin farming, I will argue why below. Logs currently make me 5k per hour and I have 1000 woodcutting, and mcmmo bonus plus. Woodcutting should make 15k-20k per hour, once again, I will argue why below.
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I am aware of the nerf for tree farming but it should be more then what it is now. For woodcutting to actually be profitable you would generally need 1000 woodcutting, this takes hours upon hours to achieve. You also need fly, e repairs (major, I bought ++ and it is a major help), you need mcmmobonus plus, and to even have a chance at training woodcutting you need mcmmo+++. In total this is 250 dollars in donation features. You also need a good axe to even break the trees using tree feller. Not to mention the fact that tree farms are incredibly more difficult to make and mantain(replanting, getting rid of leaves), where as pumpkins just re grow without any effort. Although to make pumpkin farming profitable you do indeed need a good axe, and fly. However e repairs is not a must, when you are tree felling trees an Eff 5 unb 3 axe goes down about 1/8 the durability making it quite common to break a tool which is now 50k around, this will get more users to donate for ext commands ++ for the auto repair. Pumpkins however are 1 break at a time, and the tools last a TON longer then when you are tree felling. So I will list what you need to tree farm, and what you need to pumpkin farm.
Tree Farming -
$250 dollars in features, possibly $300
More of a risk of breaking a 50k tool (happens very often)
Manual replanting
Hours upon hours of labor training Mcmmo (only 3 people including myself at 1000 woodcutting)
Can only farm for 25 seconds, then have to wait ~3 minutes
Pumpkin farming -
Really only need $60 in features
Less of a risk of breaking a 50k tool
Automatic replanting (pumpkin regrowth)
No Mcmmo is needed
Constant farming, very easily to be made automatic using macro mod.
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LaBelleDame BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Tycoon ⚜️⚜️⚜️
I sympathize with this argument, woodcutting has been nerfed 3 times since I joined and seems a bit overdone (I assume because just not wanted that it competes with farming/mining).
Less noticed was a similar cut with similar effect from 40 cents to 20 cents for mining hard clay. -
I support an increase in raised prices for logs. One of my friends is a tree farmer on the server, and it takes him forever to make money.
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I do think woodcutting could do with a bit of balancing. At the moment it isn't in line with Mining and farming as genuine money making opportunities. I am probably slightly biased having 1000 woodcutting though ;)
EDIT: Having thought this through a bit more, I am not sure what I think. Firstly, Woodcutting is different to many other skills - you need a high level in order for it to make any worthwhile money. Unlike mining which you make roughly the same regardless what level you have with an eff 7. So, on the face of things, It would seem fair to make it more profitable for those with 1000 woodcutting. The issue I have though is how easy 1000 woodcutting is. It took me 5 days and that wasn't even playing a lot, admittedly a few hours a day, but I was also moderating at the time so wasn't 100% focused on levelling. If woodcutting became significantly more profitable then it could seriously harm the economy due to the relative ease of getting higher levels.
That being said, I do think it should be made more profitable a little. At least so it offers a viable alternative to mining/farming. -
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I have 1k woodcutting and many, many other people do also. The problem with the increase is those with maxed out mcmmobounusplus and an eft 10 axe on speed 10 can absolutely tare through trees.
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Hum..I hadn't thought about eff10 axe (how many people have those?).
If it is nerfed just to stop a couple of users, that's a shame. -
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It's not accurate, because it's just the thread, but still I think below link might help to at-least check approximately how many people have eff10 axes..
http://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/t...-7-eff10-tools-owner-list-updated-2-18.78380/ -
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(meaning at the current price you can make 10-11k an hour) -
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I agree that logs may need a small increase, but it shouldn't be allowed to make any more than 15k. Which is what melons currently make per hour.
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