Take xGAJx for example. He used to die to kits, but once he bought them, like he said, he started to obliterate. Yes, a lot of people do leave the server, but that's because they're looking for an SG server. Something ECC is not. The one's that come on ECC looking for an economy server with SG just as an added minigame, are the one's that stay. I suggest that we just add a new minigame other than SG.

 

Most people that join ECC actually join for the economic aspect of the server. I remember I was looking for an economy server, and found ECC. SG is what most of the builders start out doing first. They think the server is a joke because of all the kits and leave. Therefore, kits are only hurting andrew now.

 

Those builders that come to ECC and just leave because of SG are the ones that usually either cause trouble, or ONLY want to play SG. They aren't looking for an economy server.

 

Those builders aren't "troublemakers". They're rubbed the wrong way by kits. Kits are pushing away new users from joining ECC. I joined ECC when there was no SG, so I truly can't relate to this, but from what I've seen at spawn, it's bad. Builders begin to curse and rage, then leave because they were killed by a "hacker" (aka kitter).

 

Those are troublemakers, because they were too immature to watch their mouth in-game because they died to a kitter. You don't see people like Alpert cursing because he died. And not trying to beat a dead horse here, but once again, they aren't looking for an economy server, they're looking for SG. Which is not what ECC is for.

 

You compared apples to oranges there. Alpert doesn't whine and cry because he got killed because he's an experienced user. They may be a little immature to curse and whine but, wouldn't you be mad and start to rage if an invisible person 1 hit kills you out of no where and you had no way to defend yourself? I'm pretty sure you would be infuriated at the fact that that happened to you. I would leave within the blink of an eye with that happening.

 

sg is a wasted huge possible advertising donation bringing in game

it's so popular on minecraft, we kind of wasted the potential by adding kits and only making people frustrated. it's not like the 15 dollar kits are even bad, I don't mind them. it's kits like buffer, spy, miq that just ruin the experience for everyone.

alpert has a lot to lose if he would quit over sg because he was probably a decent rank before sg even existed/got popular

plenty of veterans dont watch their mouth in-game.

ecc is for fun. getting 1 hit killed is not fun. sg is a way to make money so you dont have to mine in a straight line for hours or walk down a row of pumpkins spamming your mouse. it's a break that could have been fun but instead, wasted.

 

+1!!!!

 

+1.
'Nuff said.

 

How about "One Hit Kill Invis Games"

 

They should have an interest in the economy aspect in the first place. Well you have heard my opinion thank you for letting me hear yours.

 

Around half of the new users join just for SG, because ECC is in the SG and Minigames tags and categories on voting sites. (And, as most people know, no one wants to read a mini-essay on what a server is actually about.) So, unfortunately, many users who join are joining strictly for SG, only to be disappointed.

However, those who join for economy, are told first-thing that, "SG makes you good money when you are starting out." Even by Staff, who - although not anyone's personal fault - have been told to promote SG. As well, SG and /spawn point were specifically set up so that the first thing people see is SG. So even if a person wants to play an economy server, they are told to play SG, forced to see SG, etc... So they try it, it's "all the rave," only to be frustrated and leave. "Is this seriously one of the main ways to make money? No thanks..." :s

 

Well instead of making this thread turn into something of a flame war, I think we should get a new minigame, with maybe less of an advantage with kits. So I, personally, think we should start posting minigame suggestions.

 

I have no problem with sg, this is a suggestion for you guys

 

I'd say make the current SG a minigame, as it is not true SG... And add a true SG (with no kits, obviously).

People have been making minigame suggestions, but Andrew currently has "plans" for that ("future plans" in spawn, I think), so I am not sure he is taking any suggestions. D: (Or, at least, not confirming/denying any.)

 

+1

 

+1