3 minutes is the standard Minecraft Invisibility potion. You are thinking of the extended version (brewed with redstone)

People can have opinions though...

One thing I want to point about is that, as people, including andrewkm, have stated before, kits are not going away. Why was Buffer nerfed? Because Minecraft updates broke it, and it needed a revertion. Just because one kit is modified doesn't mean the end of all kits.

 

-1 Spy is fine the way it is. Your 75% safe for 3 mins and can have the element of surprise on most people. Hunter is a counter to spy so learn how to use it.

 

-1 Use f3 and hunter to kill ppl with spy

 

-1 spy at 3 minutes was the original strength of the kit. Buffer was needed because the original lot was half the damage than the kit it was before the nerf. Spy does not need nerfed just because you can't 1 hit them any longer

 

+1

 

-1 again i will say spy is very easy to kill if you know how to play in f5 mode. It is so easy to see their footsteps and especially if you have the cc kit it will light them on fire making the seconds hit (which will kill them) very easy

 

im just stating its not hard to beat... i kill many spy users every game

 

*raises hand* I rarely ever use spy, unless it's for a boss battle or a huge game that I want to camp out instead of fighting.

My opinion: Spy is fine as a 3:00 kit. Why? Because it, again, is not terribly hard to kill. Using F3 HUD and a CC sword, you can hit them once, put an arrow into them, then go from there. Once they have an arrow in them or on fire, you have a target to hit. Occasionally, you will get the freak bowshot of them as they are in the crossfire or as they are running around. However, with the right tactics, you can absolutely reck spies.

It is, in my opinion, one of the less OP kits ECC has, because people know how to negotiate. Worst comes to worse, camp them out until they become visible.