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  1. Original_Jackson ♕ Ecoleader ♕
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    How on earth is it ridiculous... Nothing of what I have said is over the top, I'm not trying to be mean, but you specifically said when you were unbanned you would pay everyone back besides one person, how does he feel? Cheated. This system decides what you have fairly.
     
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    I'm going to put aside my argument when it comes to the GA's doing this for a second and ask another question. Lets say Player A scams Player B out of 80k. Player A gets banned and we go to transfer the money, he only has 30k. That is 50k left over that is owed to Player B. When Player A goes to appeal does he have to pay off the rest of that money?
     
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    This right here. ^

    And adding to that, what if that person needed the 30K that was taken from them to make money faster, like rent a melon sword or EFF7?
     
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    I stated that yes, they would Infact owe the rest of the money if they appeal, the whole point of this thread is suggest giving the players scammed something, not everything, I know giving them the total would be impossible usually
    But this is just to help ease the pain, however I hugely respect the staff and what they have to do to keep this server going, so if this is not imaginable because fame admins do not have enough time, then just tell me.
     
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    Then they can get a loan, I believe the person who was scammed is of greater priority then the person scammed.
     
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    While I like this concept of this idea, I think that there is a better execution for this. I like everything that has been stated, except for the fact that this would apply for all scams. In my opinion, since in this case I will be describing, the scammed player would have no chance at getting their money back. This system should only apply to users who were scammed by permanently banned users, who have a very slim chance of appeal and a long tempban with that to have everything returned to them. In most cases, the player who scams is required to pay the money back within a certain amount of time, but if the user is permanently banned, with no chance of appeal, then the scammed user really cannot receive their money back. This would also limit the number of these transactions that can take place, because I see GameAdmins being the only people who would be able to do this. If items were scammed, that would be more difficult from what I've seen, because the user who scammed could put it in a chest and it would almost disappear. One thing left for discussion from this is what justifies this to be used (how long would the tempban have to be in order for the scammed user to receive their money or items)?

    TLDR: I suggest only using this with users who have been scammed by players who have been banned with no appeal or have a long tempban (up for discussion on how long).
     
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    -1 waist of time for Andrew, as you can see mrbojangles didn't flip out, but Andrew did something about it cause he checked logs, but this would be an insane waist of time for the staff team, and you cant just give people money.
     
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    How does Andrew take money from your account when he did you mayor app? Or add money if you won a voting prize? Exactly, he ad/took it away, which I'm proposing that game admins could be given the ability to do, honestly it would help to actually READ the thread and not just the first sentence of the first post before you decide to comment.
     
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    Fine by me every single donation scam for me the user got perma banned :p I see where your coming from, but I not to sure how I feel about it, because 1 scam does not equal a perma ban so it wouldn't be implemented too often, also, if a user is gonna get perma banned, they're doing it intentionally at that point, so they aren't gonna keep any money.
     
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    Staff members, please correct me if I am wrong.

    Andrew doesn't manually take money out of a user's account to promote them. From my understanding, KHobbits developed a simple command to promote and take the money out of your account. However, in the case of a mayor app, Andrew is needed to place the town to the corresponding coordinates.
     
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    GAs can use specially created commands to do town, shop and rank apps.
     
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    So, Kuke, you're a game admin, I understand you guys must be busy, do you see the creation of letting you guys do money transfers applicable? If it's too much work lemme know.

    And also, I'm not trying to make a perfect system, I've learned from watching this type of suggestion fall every time, there is no way it could be perfect, all I am trying to get done is something to help out the players who got scammed.
     
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    I don't think andrew would let us have control over people's balances like that, it can be easily exploited. Just one GA messing up could cause a large problem. With the commands we currently use we follow a set order of things and we don't have direct control over balances. For towns and shop we have a command that takes a set amount out of someone's balance, the amounts are decided by andrew's config file.
     
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    Ok well then I don't see this working in any way if the game admins can't do the money transfer, you can close this thread kuke as it is point less now
     
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