Denied [Suggestion] Bring back old PvP

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  1. WreckitRalphed

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    Suggestion: Bring back old PvP, like ~1.7 pvp or so, or just remove the stupid cool down for attacking.

    Reason: PvP is stupid right now. You sit there swinging your sword or axe once per hour while jumping around each other, it's dumb af. The old PvP system allowed for a more competitive and faster gameplay whilst also being more fun. This new combat system has ruined PvP. If SG money has to be decreased so be it, but at the moment it is just dumb. It is babied down slow paced minecraft PvP, they even jump for you now.

    Any Other Information: Find a way to get rid of that god awful timer between hits anyway you can do it just do it.

    Link To This Plugin/Is this a custom addition?: @JamieSinn
     
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    No. It's stupid to try your hardest to stick to a system that's outdated. Learn to live with the new PVP. I personally like the new pvp more.
     
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    Currently this is not the doing of the server it is 1.9 Monjang. The only way this would be accomplished is for the server to revert back to 1.8 which would not appeal to new players. OR the server could set up another server like the hub where you would be told to change your minecraft to 1.8 in order to play. However, I doubt the second option would occur as the hub has not been completed yet.

    Btw I suck at pvp I'm only good at the OLD sg
     
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    It's possible in 1.9, there are plugins that change the mechanics around to mimic pre 1.9. But it's silly to stick to outdated mechanics.
     
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    Well congrats you're the first person to actually like the new combat. You never PvPed back in the day, at least I never saw you. If you think jumping around in a circle swinging your sword every 5 seconds is "better" then you sir like babied down games

    Edit: Just because something is old does not mean it's "outdated" or "bad". I don't mind them bringing new blocks and mobs in, but messing with the core mechanics is where thing's get bad AKA duel wielding (like wtf?) shields, and the dumb cooldown on attacks.
     
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    -1 just adapt with the times. If it's a challenge for old players to adapt that levels the playing field to people trying to get into pvp now. Which may suck from the experienced player's perspective but fresh blood in the server and in sg is always good for old players in the long run. I haven't noticed anyone having that hard of a time just dealing with it. You also should probably not personally attack people with opposing view points, it makes your view point appear weakened.
     
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    whoa, calm down mate.I'm sure there are many others that like the new combat. I know there are some pvpers on ECC that like it, though I can't recall their names. But they'll look at this suggestion eventually.

    Just because you suck at new pvp doesn't mean it's bad. Lol. It's much more than just " jumping around in a circle swinging your sword every 5 seconds". But then again, what do you know. You've already written it off because it's a change from what you're used to.
    If you are going to downplay new pvp into that, then I'll just say that pre 1.9 was just spamclicking. We both know that's not all there is to it, but at its essence, that's what it is. Don't be daft. Get used to PVP. It's not gonna change.

    PS: saying my argument is bad because I don't pvp is ridiculous. Because I did PVP, a fair lot even. Just not on ECC because only kits existed here.
     
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    Right, that's why PvP is 100% non existent and SG has barley any people playing it despite it being OP money (if you win). Kuke it's not much more than jumping around a circle and landing 1 hit every 5 seconds, sure add in bows and flint and steal and maybe other things that don't get used like TnT. I've written it down because it is crap, it is not what minecraft pvp should be, why do you think all major PvP servers are staying ~1.8?

    Edit: @kukelekuuk00 I'd rather there be fast pace attacking then attacking once every 5 seconds, there were maneuvers you can make, block hitting, there was more strategy involved, if you think it was just spam clicking you've never played competitive pvp
     
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    It's my right to disagree with people, just as I am disagreeing with you now. The current state of PvP is babied down and soft. It is boring it is slow it isn't what it should be in my opinion.
     
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    Because people hate change and yell at everything. People have been sticking to previous versions of minecraft since the early beta days. Enchantments? Oh no that's bad. Potions? Oh no that's bad. Look at us now, using enchantments and potions. It's literally a repeat of that. it takes a few months, but everyone eventually adapts. (though, it might take longer this time, because there's a legit method to change attack speed)
     
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    I liked enchantments, I like potions, no one ever complained they were good updates that brought variety to PvP and the game in a whole. Now the mechanics have changed and it is dubbed down baby minecraft. Edit: THE GAME EVEN JUMPS FOR YOU NOW
     
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    It was literally the same outrage as it was now. It completely changed how pvp worked, and everyone complained about how everything was OP.

    *brain implodes*
     
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    People complained about certain potions yes, such as instant damage II being able to 3 shot people in less than a second. However it did not change game mechanics other than giving buffs/debuff But overall it was a good update, this one however, is shit
     
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    eh? what? The cooldown makes the game less 'babied down' -.- Otherwise its just spam clicking tf out of your mouse and hoping you click faster. Yes the cooldown can be annoying but i like it better honestly. (Only thing i find really annoying with it is in single player when im getting swarmed by zombies x.x) As i recall mojang changed to make it more tactical and to make it so you dont need a gaming mouse to win. (there are people out there using the built in mouse pad thing) also, i think i recall andrew saying he wasn't gonna bother messing around with a plugin to revert to the old pvp. so -1. Lot of work for something thats not needed.
     
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    I honestly think with the new sg cool downs and all the sg updates will be to op, with bfr a 2 shot hit? No 1.9 gives more players a chance.
     
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    @strongpelt I used a $5 mouse for years. You do realize there was a limit for how many times something can be damaged right? There was a set time in between taking damage. Instead of being able to do damage whenever you attack you have to wait 5 seconds before attacking, that is babied down.
     
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    actually, you dont have to c: its not like it prevents you from doing it. its just doing less damage. you can still spam click and kill things, sure it takes awhile, but its there.
     
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    Per like 20 swings you will do 1 heart of damage if you play like that
     
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    thats a bit extreme. sheep have more hearts than one and iv killed them in less than 20 hits. also try just going for a faster weapon? each weapon has different cooldowns.
     
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