1. I didn't say inflation was going to be a problem. I used an example of how money flowed out of their pockets involuntarily, kind of how this would be happening here.
2. I'm not greedy and sociopathic, that is your only argument. Make up factual evidence that would actually make this suggestion happen, not by calling everyone names.
3. This system is welfare, that's why it was brought up.
4. I'm taking it to that extent so the suggestion isn't accepted. Those are economic ideas, and what are we on? And economy server, so they do apply to this.
5. If you want to donate, go ahead. Take that out of your own pocket and start a fundraiser. I'm not against that at all. I'm against the idea of a tax being implemented, which can not be avoided. A fundraiser is your decision, a tax is not.

We will never give up until this is locked, or stowed away under the floorboards.

 

Because this is a good and valid suggestion, its easy to be applied ingame and people see that.

 

To me it seems like an incredibly long time for a suggestion to be open, which in turn is a bit fishy... but that's just me.

 

I agree. It's been only a month, but has gotten 15 pages. I wonder what the driving force of keeping it open is...

 

You only read what you want and stick to it. I said it was my opinion and it was directed towards no one. And this tax can be avoided if you just mis 1-2 lottos per week. I can't see your problem with that.

 

What I'm really saying is this;

If you two stop arguing, it'll go through anyways. I just think there's no way of actually stopping this from happening.

 

Why do you think that? I would be happy if it happens but idk why it would?

 

1. If we do this twice a week, that means there will be 192 lotteries. Clearly not 1-2 lottos at all...
2. It doesn't matter how many there are, it matters how much money people are losing. It's not the people's problem for what happened to you. If you want to help out, fine. Go for it, but don't make someone forcefully pay money to someone they don't want to help.
3. If I avoid these lottos, what will happen to fund if everyone did this? Are you seeing the whole in your logic?

 

There is no way every single person will avoid extra tax lotto. I know I will not and I am 200% sure there will be people that will still buy tickets. And don't tell me you lotto every single time because its impossible, so 192 lottos per year I assume mean nothing. In the end it comes down to that you just don't want this to happen for some reason. No one is forcing you to pay and the people that want to help can do it if they want to. No one is forced I don't know where did you get that idea but its a false statement.

 

Ok, I was trying to say that people will take advantage of this system, and I don't want to see that happen. Sorry for offending you.

1. There are 192 for every two days, not per year.
2. Yeah, not everyone will. People will still play lotto. But nearly as many people will play, and that would pretty much ruin the system, right?
3. I don't want it to happen because it's not right. It's not the lotto players problem, it's the person who got scammed. If you want to start a charity fund, go ahead. But don't make everyone else do it. That's why I don't want it to happen. You've neglected that the entire time by calling me "greedy" and a "sociopath". Do I have a problem with that? A little, but it won't kill me. But if you're going to call me that, explain it, not be repetitive.

 

I'm a bit confused how would someone "take advantage" of the system?

 

Muti-account scam mainly. Or just manage to "win" every time through a corrupt staff member possibly? Not sure about that one :p.

 

I agree with half of what you're saying. You're half right. All accounts of scamming could have been avoided in some way, however if people didn't take the risk of being scammed it would destroy countless aspects and branches of the ecc economy. Therefore people should take this risk as it helps the economy. If those aspects and branches of the economy are destroyed it isn't the players problem, it's everyone's problem. If we offer a chance of getting a refund of being scammed more people will be willing to take the risk causing the economy to grow and expand in ways that don't cause inflation. For my next point your logic is that if people got themselves in a negative situation we shouldn't have to help them because well they got themselves in it. I understand they could have avoided the situation but that's no reason for us to not help them.

 

Yes you are probably right about that I for one am certain that there are currupt staff members but in previous post we both said that the best way to conclude this debate is to give it a shot in-game. If it works out keep it in and if it doesn't we can try something else. We also forgot about the charity medal idea which doesn't need even a tryout period. It can be easily applied and I will be happy to get that and I'm sure many others will get it too.

 

Hmm I see what youre saying here. The multi-accounting part has already been adresses by if the scammer is unbanned and the scammed has already been paid the scammer would pay the money he/she would usually pay to the scammed to the fund that paid the scammed. As for the corrupt staff member I can imagine phys would catch it pretty quick if someone was abusing and the system would likely be dealt with by a very trusted staff member or phys herself so I don't see that happening but I won't deny that is a possibility and if this is implemented and staff reads this please take this into account.

 

Yes, but people need to know how to take risks. I for one was scammed the other day by who I thought was a trustworthy player, so I agree with you there. But, I do know the risks, and also know that I don't always receive help. I don't think it will ruin the economy like you're projecting it to. The economy has remained stable ever since I've been here, and there are no benefits from the server at all. So I don't think the economy will just tank like you say it will.

The charity medal is showing corruption. How people want a material item and accolade more than actually helping someone. Listen to Californication by The Red Hot Chilli Peppers and you'll understand.

 

Why does the reason one buys the medal matter to you? It doesn't matter if someone buys it for a selfish reason if in the proces he/she helps another players.
P.S. Thats a good song! Cheers!

 

It doesn't mean anything really, it just goes to show that people just want to look like a philanthropist and look good with a shiny medal. I don't think it should be added. As well, where would that money be stored for the fund?