Thank you, but I'm still going to argue for this suggestion. I am not entirely sure what you were referring to when you said was my opinion, but I'm gona assume you mean saying scamming can't be solved. If you think this isn't true then feel free to make a suggestion that would combat scamming if it gets implimented and it works it won't eradicate scamming completely. That being said as long as scamming exists and is an issue (which it currently is) there is still a need fo this suggestion, however if you find a way to eradicate scamming completely great job when/if that happens there will no longer be a need for this suggestion.

I see what you're saying here and I won't deny it could happen, but I wouldn't say it certainly will because this hopefully it would be made clear that there is a fairly small chance of getting your money back and this system isn't something they should rely on, however as I said this could happen. In the case that it does have the impacts you think it will only a small percent of people would think about it that way because most would know better.

 

This is effectively a lottery for people that have been scammed...
A lottery to see who is actually going to be reimbursed for some other person who scammed them.

my main beef against this idea is that it is using server produced/collected funds to randomly payback someone that historically has never been reimbursed by anything remotely related to the server.

Following this line of possible logic, all lotto money should be collected and then reimbursed to all that have been scammed and can provide sufficient evidence. Do that, and then when the person invariably appeals and and invariably successful (because hey SCAMMERS ARE PEOPLE TOO!) they should be forced to pay back, a negative balance for the amount they scammed, and the extra for something significantly punitive.

THATS an idea

Pay back EVERYONE that gets scammed with server money, and then force the scammers to pay back the server.

you're welcome

*drops mic walks off stage*

 

So because we help some people we have to take on the near impossible task of helping everyone?

 

This man knows whats he's talking about

 

Liquidate the scammers asserts after 1 month with no appeal.

 

What about the scammed will they just have to wait an extra month?

 

No, they would receive the money when the complaint is locked and the scammer is banned. They would then receive x amount from the server and when the scammer appeals, they would pay the server. If the scammer does not appeal, their LWC's would be unlocked and all the contents of an equal value as the amount scammed would be destroyed. Does that make more sense?

I still don't agree with it, but if something had to be done, I would prefer this.

 

So in the case where this suggestion is implimented if someone gets paid by the server that should happen. If so not a bad idea but I still think that belongs in a future suggestion if this one is added.

 

The one me and Dork are suggesting is much better than this one. The burden goes on no one on the server that doesn't want to help. I don't like the idea of a "refund", but, I'd much rather see the one I'm suggesting over this one.

 

Then how come I proposed that yet you said -1?

 

Not sure how it works exactly, but I believe forum etiquette would have you create your own suggestion rather than make one on this one.

 

Nowhere did you suggest that.

 

http://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/some-suggestions.113750/

Read that

 

Also, a lotto tax is somewhat good since lotto contributes nothing to ecc economy unless some random builder just won it when he just joined the server

 

Because I still don't believe a scamming refund is good. I stated that the idea is better than the one that's currently suggested.

Really? That's why around $4.2M is taken out each week from lotto. @Dewsy92 knows the exact amount. But, lotto is a necessity to the economy. So don't throw out "lotto does nothing" without any knowledge of the purpose of lotto. kthxbai

 

Then explain to me how lotto helps the economy?

 

When a lottery ticket is bought, $150 is taken out of the economy. We need to take money out of the economy in order to combat the millions of dollars spawned into ECC via /sell. This is the only effective way to combat inflation. Lottery = Needed for a stable economy.

 

1. You and dork hasn't really suggested anything you two have presented and idea with no current action plan. What clou has is a suggestion a plan to solve and issue that we currently have. What you and dork have presented is an idea to solve for something else. What you and dork presented isn't nesasarily better than what clou has suggested for 3 reasons 1. They solve for different issues but similar issues so you can't really compare the two. 2. What you guys suggested isn't really a entire plan all you've done is presented an idea. 3. Saying that what you guys suggested is better is entirely subjective and based on your opinion and isn't really based on anything.