-1 i do understand your point in why you would want them removed. but it wouldnt negatively effect every user on ECC. not just the shop owners. you said that other town located playershops get looked over because of the convenience of the playershop. yes its convenient, but if they werent there everyone would have to buy the TP donation or multihome to have a similar convience of the original playershops. donations features can run you 90k-120k ECC. or 15-20$USD. now everyone has to pay 90k+ to use player shops at the same convenience.
secondly. "This sort of economic opportunity, however, is restricted to those who own spawn shops, either by an incredible amount of luck or wealth accumulated from staring at pumpkins." its true. you either put the time into farming the hard way or get lucky at the lotto. but thats the way of life. there isnt any handouts. ECC is an economy server not a give it for free server. you gotta work to get where you want to be.. hope this doesnt sound bashing/rude. im just trying to let you know why things wouldnt work out as well as you would hope they would.

 

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-1 I strongly disagree with this, but you said people would dismiss this suggestion but I won't just -1 and log off I'll try to explain why.

My comments:

First ill address your obvious hate for farming. Your perfectly ok with mining for hours and hours to get 100k (because u said
it can get your resident and mayor) but not planning and building a farm which takes a lot of time and money because glowstone and thousands of blocks of dirt and seeds add up. Why do u see mining a more suitable outlet? This is a "hard core economy server" all forms of money should be accepted and not looked down on. This is a user based economy so if a user sees farming is a good way to make money then they make it that way.

Again your apparent hate for farming is evident "accumulated from staring at pumpkins". But this isn't always the case there wouldn't be so many people going to rent market shops of they didn't make a profit from them. You should suggest the spawn shop to have higher prices because its the spawn shop that sets the general prices for items and stabilizes the economy so one person doesn't sell oaks for $1 then the next for $2 then to compensate the original player sell his for $3 instead of $1 and so on which will cause inflation. The spawn shop keep things balanced and ordered and sets a standard for players to follow to prevent inflation.

Your correct this is not a change most players would be ok with. What your not understanding is with the removal of the spawn shop and /sell hand, NO money will be cycled out of or into the economy. The reason /sell hand was made was to give the player an endless about of money to make if he or she dedicates the time to doing so. The spawn shop is meant to take money back as well as keep a balance in the economy.

Simply
Spawn shop:If your suggestion is accepted and the server stops spawn shop all the prices with skyrocket because no one can buy in bulk and players will be getting enormous amounts of money for simple things like wood and dirt. There would be no medium to dictate the amount of money
per object leaving the circulation and price up to a monopoly. This would lead again to mass inflation and item shortage.

/sell hand: if your suggestion is accepted and /sell was removed think about it there would be no money cycled back into the economy. ZERO what we have now is what we will always have period there will always be a fixed amount of money in the server that will never change because there is no infinite supply of money players can work to get by using /sell to the server. This lack of money income will lead to only a fixed amount of players ever ranking up or spending any money at all because the rich will get rich and the poor will be poor. All the money will go to already rich users because they will be the only ones with supplies to sell because spawn shop will be gone. BUT how will they sell if the builders/res/mayors have no money because they have to find buyers for everything even things no one wants which will cripple the economy even further.

Overall: this suggestion will literally destroy EVERYTHING that makes that makes the server an economy server this will lead the server on the path to inflation, monopoly, and unfairness which will put players off from playing and will lead to even less players on the server then ever. A successful economy even irl depends on the government to regulate prices and provide a constant supply of money in and out. Ecocitycraft is no different. If you really don't like farming that much don't do it.

Turtwig Out-

 

I agree with this!^^^

 

Farming isn't the only way to make money. I don't understand why you thinking mining is good only for resident and below?It reads as if you think everyone only farms and no one does nothing else once they reach a certain rank. There are other choices out there.

-1 - I don't agree with the premise and therefor its faulty conclusions.

 

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As Emau stated above, farming is not the only way to make money. I dont farm or mine in order to make money.

 

I, as a prime spawnshop owner, do beleive it is the best source of income on the server. However, that being said, it isn't the only way to make money. I just got my first prime shop a few weeks ago, and I never farmed. Infact, my herbalism level is only 9, and that is purely from gathering potatoes for food and mcmmo parties, nothing else.

Now, on to your suggestion.

In theory, I could see this as a "True Economy". However, we then allow players 100% responsibility to dictate the market. Our ops (Andrew/KHobbits) act almost as the government. They have to regulate everything. For example, the United States has their own controls on trade. This comes in the form of taxes, prevention of monopolies, etc. These things have to happen, and on ECC, they happen through server prices.

I like the idea, however, it isn't possible to execute it.

 

Honestly I skimmed through a lot of this since it's a lot of text but I just wanted to address your statement here:

I've been mining since I got here. I've only farmed wheat/potatoes for food. Not sure what you mean by mining only works for residents/mayors.

In general, the economy probably wouldn't last with just relying on the players for prices. The server values for items is extremely fair and makes the server difficult, which is half the fun for me. I don't believe it should be easy to rank up in a few days with minimal effort. It should be a slow, long grind that you work your way to the top. Hard work should be rewarded, just as much as shrewd business decisions should be.

 

TL;DR

 

Summary: Flawed