Minecraft Name: will_the_warrior
Suggestion: I suggest that staff take a stronger position when it comes to enforcing the forum rules. I feel that when a player breaks a forum rule (most commonly commenting on ban appeals/complaints that do not pertain to them), they should be issued a forum warning on the spot. Staff members asking them to stop commenting or giving them a final warning is not necessary...issue them a forum warning right then and there. Once they have collected three forum warnings, they should be banned from the forums for a certain period of time (maybe 3 days for first offense).
Reason: I am personally tired of seeing the same users post over and over on complaints and ban appeals that they have nothing to do with. We are all familiar with the rules and are aware that we are not supposed to comment on them unless we are providing screenshot evidence or have been tagged by a Moderator to answer a question. Staff members should not have to repeatedly comment on complaints and say "Anybody else who comments on this complaint will be issued a forum warning." That seems unnecessary; if users make the choice to comment when they know they shouldn't, they can take the forum warning. If they continue, they will get forum banned and will learn the hard way.
Any Other Information: This will also cut down on the massive amount of mini-modding that takes place on complaints and ban appeals. Moderators have their positions for a reason and are well capable of performing their duties. We do not need users commenting on complaints and trying to explain how to properly file the complaint/appeal or what is wrong with it. I understand helping other users, but that is done just as well through forum conversation. The Moderators and directly related parties should be the ONLY users commenting on ban appeals and complaints. If you wish to leave your feedback, do so through the rating system. Otherwise, simply "watch" the thread and leave it up to the Moderators. This will prevent a lot of unneeded flaming and arguments in the section. Users should also be warning for bumping their complaint/appeal, as that is against the forum rules as well.
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will_the_warrior Wealthy WarriorBuilder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️ Premium Upgrade
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I totally feel where you are coming from in this and I completely agree except for 2 things. First, 1 week is a tad too extreme. After 3 warnings in 30 consecutive days you get a 3 day temp ban and I really feel that is sufficient. Second, they have been cracking down on it. Approximately 3-4 weeks ago they started handing out forum warnings and deleting comments, but in the past week they have been quite lax on the warnings and that's probably due to new mods coming on board, learning the system and being a little timid about handing out warnings. I do think it will get better over time, especially once the some of the chronic posters start racking up temp bans, the new mods get some time under their belts and get comfortable reprimanding players publicly.
However in all fairness, a new/newer/newish player deserves a verbal warning before straight to official forum warning. Yes, they should have read the rules, but let's be honest, some/most newer players will only read the bare minimum to get by. A verbal warning telling them the rules and then also informing them where the rules are located should done before straight to punishment. Just my two cents.-
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or we just go with the 3 day temp ban like always ( I would like a temp ban more then getting banned cause now it takes forever)
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We had this http://ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/suggestion-harsher-punishments-for-unneeded-comments.101485/ and I think it was good enough.
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I can't comprehend why it is considered malicious to correct a fellow user who happens to be using an improper format for an appeal. I would consider this a non-issue. -1
Obviously, there is a difference between correcting and enforcing. Normal users can educate newer players about the rules, but they can't enforce them. Only staff should be able to enforce. -
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Moderators are capable, indeed. And, it may be best to leave it up to them, but that does not mean it is wrong for normal users to help out. I said I did not understand why it is malicious, meaning I don't understand why it is harmful. Normally, when bans and warnings are being discussed we like to prove there is harm reduced by using them. In this case, harm is not done by the user just trying to correct a malformed appeal, so a ban or warning would be disproportional.
Also, there is no comprehensible reason to quarantine these corrections to forum conversations. In either case, the user gets the information from a non-staff member.
Also, I doubt these corrections, when not in excess, spam up an appeal. Normally, they would consist of one, at most two, postings. This is hardly spam.
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I don't care what they "claim" to be doing, its all about what they actually did. And that is determined by the staff.
I agree that unnecessary, meaning malicious, comments should be handled appropriately, but the staff should not use punitive action against people just trying to help out. That is unethical, in every way.
As a general rule, all general rules are stupid. Because they can be used to punish innocent people; which is something that a just staff ought never do.-
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No Ingame is bad enough. This is why our database is going down.
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that was what I meant
Now for forums I feel like what they are doing is fine.
My older suggestion was to have the fine chart apply to people posting comments and breaking forum rules but since mods are too lazy they said no.
Enforcing rules on forums just might make people never use the forums again like for example
"As a general rule, all general rules are stupid. Because they can be used to punish innocent people; which is something that a just staff ought never do." I totally agree
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