[User Complaint] @apple_pro

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  1. a18greek18

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    Casino Scamming/Rigging for Guaranteed Major Profit
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    Already messaged @Clainetphoenix and a few other mods about this, but I've decided to make the situation public. It is very obvious that this user is scamming players from the redstone wiring of the last 2 columns.

    As seen is the screenshots above, the redstone for the last 2 columns will never light up both middle blocks at the same time. Since the user split the wiring to go to the middle and top, it will never land on middle and middle. My '/home l' shows this
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    Oh, and btw staff you might wanna act on this situation fast and ban the user before he attempts to change the design. And if he attempts to change it then I guess I was right :p Thanks :)
     
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  2. KingNdm

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    Due to the nature of this complaint I will be tagging the @Game Admin

    Please be patient while this is handled, No irrelevant posts on this complaint, this is a warning.
     
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  3. JamieSinn

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    I'll be handling this.
     
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  4. kukelekuuk

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    Rigging a game with such low odds that nobody can tell the difference is just pointless. I did some calculations on the lowest odds you can create with their system, and it's one in 8. you need 5 in a row, so 8^5 = 32768. A one in 32768 chance of winning. 32768 * 750 = 24.6m. So statistically the casino would profit about 24.6m, before they'd have to pay out 325k. Rigging is literally pointless! Who cares about 325k when you'd statistically make like 24.3m profit every time someone won!

    Also can confirm, is rig.
     
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  5. OlympiansAreGods

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    Ok - A warning for all ya'll who are checking this casino game out. The mechanics, are in a locked area. For you to have seen them, you would have had to use /j and that is illegal, if you are caught doing this I shall file a complaint for abuse of feature. I'll also be getting mods to check people are not behind there from time to time.
     
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  6. Imabankthing

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    No evidence here of anyone playing the game with this current red stone wiring. Unless a18 has evidence to show someone actually playing the game with this set up no scam has taken place.
     
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  7. lmaofrskd

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    Well, we can't get that now.. might just edit the mechanics behind the machine now.
     
  8. a18greek18

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    Trade sign payment logs, as well as chat logs, and dispenser logs.

    Good day sir.
     
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  9. Imabankthing

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    That's not in your complaint. You've been here long enough to know the rules... Complaint should be dismissed due to lack of evidence

    If im not mistaken this jackpot was previously won.
     
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    (Ignore this)
    (Delete this please)
     
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  11. kukelekuuk

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    When the redstone's rigged it shows intent to scam people. Whether anyone has actually played or not is irrelevant.
     
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  12. Imabankthing

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    not at all, complaints are dismissed daily due to lack of evidence and even those contain more than this. No one is chatting about placing a bet from what I can see of the screenshots so no scam or even attempted scam here. move along now
     
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  13. iTzXtremeGaming

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    It doesn't matter if "no one played it" or not.

    If it's set out to scam someone, it'll scam them. The fact is it was maliciously made to scam them, whether it did or not is invalid.

    Anyways, Jamie is looking into it for further things, so I just suggest we stop replying here and forum pm whoever we need to instead of replying. Let him do his job :)
     
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    You can't prove it was made to scam anyone that is the point here. Yeah speak to a mod and raise your concerns but this complaint has no evidence other than a screenshot of some redstone which does not breach any rules in itself ;) the complain is for scamming yet no one is being scammed.
     
  15. JamieSinn

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    This is absolutely stupid. Players, as you said, cannot enter it without abusing a feature, staff, to investigate this are allowed to enter as they please.

    The redstone itself has been set up to PREVENT a win under any circumstances. Which I personally find really quite stupid. It's a 1 in 20m chance of winning overall.
    According to logs, plenty of people have been playing this. Albeit not as many as /warp debt.
    I am going to be investigating this as well as others involved in this, as it appears like many people have been involved in this.

    So.
    My investigation has proven, after extensive log searching, as well as looking into the mechanics of the system in a separate area, that this is indeed a 100% rigged game. It's physically impossible to win.

    I'll be banning apple for the running of illegal/rigged player lotteries. In addition to this. The redstone mechanics have been removed to prevent any further rigged purchases.


    Thanks you for this report.
     
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