[User Complaint] Bobman3355

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  1. iAmVast

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    I finished off a loan a few hours ago, I forget to delete the home go back there to delete my home then I see 8 potatoes in the sign when there should be 0 potatoes. As drewbo said I have finished this loan but bob man is putting more money in the sign even though I finished the loan so he wants me to pay more money. I can get why he wants more money because he recently got an eff 7 I saw in a Donation chest near the sign. i think hes putting more money in the sign so he can finish off his eff 7 payment as see here http://ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/contract.91734/#post-455980
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    Hi @DarknessDimitri , thank you for filing this complaint. I'll be taking care of it in a min, please be patient.
     
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    @DarknessDimitri , Could you please be more precise on your complaint? In other words, could you try to explain it differently so it's more understandable.
     
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    I think the user means that he has paid off the loan but @bobman3355 keeps on re-filling the sign so @DarknessDimitri has to pay off more money
     
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    @drewbo173 I understand the same and I understand the main idea of his complaint. However, I need him to write it out more completely and explained better as it is not 100% clear and I can't process this based on what the complaint "seems to be about".
    Nonetheless, thank you for your input.
     
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    in our agreement (i have screen shots) there is 1k interest per day the loan is late. he is late around 30 days and lucky i didn't report him. Those are simply the interest from the loan being late that i put back in the sign. If you would like to see the screen shots i would gladly post them here.
     
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    @bobman3355 please post all the evidence you can provide pertaining this complaint.
    @DarknessDimitri please do the same, apart from re-phrasing your complaint please post as much evidence as you may have.
     
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    @bobman3355 I can't accept those pictures because they do not follow the proper procedure to present screenshots as evidence.
    Please review this page about how to collect proper evidence.
    I can't accept pictures of a screen that seem to be taken from a cell phone or something similar.
     
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    how is that any different than a screen shot of the whole page?
     
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    well, bobman you did not do this but people can fake screenshots with their smartphones / cameras and its just a safety precaution, also have you been putting more money in the sign to pay off your eff 7 contract? @bobman3355
     
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    @bobman3355 The details about proper evidence, how to collect it and what we are looking for is in our rules:
    Clause 1 - Safety and Responsibility



      • When it comes to trades, whether it be an item for item trade, an item for money trade, a money for server features trade, or any sort of trade, there is a responsibility all parties take in participating in these trades to collect appropriate evidence in case something goes awry.
      • The main types of evidence needed to prove that a trade has gone wrong are: Proof of agreement (where the trade is stated and agreed upon by both parties) and the payment (where the payment is sent or received by one party.)
      • Contracts can act as proof of agreement, but in all cases, proof of payment is also required.
      • There is a forum thread, and a wiki tutorial on what proof is needed for screenshot evidence.
        • Under no circumstances is evidence from Skype or any other type of communication outside of the main server or forums admissible.
      • All parties involved in the trade understand that it is not the staff’s responsibility to return their money should they be scammed, and that in most situations, any money scammed will be lost. Users participate in trading at their own risk.
      • Always proceed with caution. If you do not think a user is trustworthy, or believe he has reason not to be, check the ban appeals and complaints section by searching their name.

    Also, as I said earlier, there are specific ways in which evidence needs to be provided, please visit "Collecting Proper Evidence" in our wiki page, as it will explain what is wrong with your photos and what is it that we need.

    @bobman3355
    Did you take screenshots with F2 (on Windows) or fn+F2 (on Mac) ?? Or just your phone?
     
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    just my phone
     
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    yes i have been paying off my eff7 all on time and i have payed back 80k on the payment plan so farm and have another 200k to go
     
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    and with the eff7 i don't need to rip u off I'm just adding the late fees. i can make 15-20k an hour with the eff7
     
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    Alright, aside from the screenshots.
    There was an agreement between @bobman3355 and @DarknessDimitri ,
    The agreement was that DarknessDimitri would receive $20,000 then pay back $40,000 after 3 days and $1,000 would be added to the payment as a late fee per day late.
    Those screenshots don't have a timestamp (that's another reason why you should follow the Guides in our Wiki) so there's no way for me to tell for sure when the that payment was due.



    I do have some questions:
    @bobman3355 Why didn't you add the late fees (potatoes in the sign) before and instead waited until the 1st sign was done? Why didn't you tell @DarknessDimitri about the new sign being made? Not just after making the sign, but that you planned on making a new sign to add these fees.
    Can both of you come up to an agreement on when they initial agreement was made? (Date those screenshots)

    Once you answer those questions I'll have a few more questions related to your answers and we should then discuss a solution for this issue.
     
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    the first sign was never done i was adding them as they days went on and he had never fully cleared bought all the potatoes in the sign. Today he bought the final ones in the sign and so the loan is payed off in full to me.
     
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