Okay here we go.... I would like to say that i for 1 and there are many like me am sick and tired of spending all day mining/farming and look up at your xp bar and its still in the stagnate position it was when i started that morning... Its getting old..
The ONLY way to get xp is to sit for hours staring at feet of mobs all day swinging a sword from time to time and collecting breadcrumbs of xp....
This isn't at all the way minecraft should be played and its a shame that it has come to this because u have a handful of shop owners that wanna sit around and rape the pocketbooks of ppl that are in need of this rarest of items called xp...
For one it isn't our fault that anyone is stupid enough to put all your eggs in 1 basket and depending on xp prices to get U thru your Market Life... All other items are rarely competitively priced because all the focus falls on xp and netherstars....
I say we put the exp back in the ores because this is minecraft ... mining or even farming all day and coming away with 0 xp is getting old fast and in a huge way... who gives a crap if the xp drops to 1k a set... maybe its time to start focusing on all the other items being sold as well...
The ones that usually cry about exp needing to stay the same and for it to be 3000+ a set are the lazy ppl sitting around playing lotto all day while hoping they add to their massive hoard of already ridiculous amounts of xp stored....
I for one do not wanna sit and stare at a mob cage all day .. this is not the least bit fun and its ruining the overall experience and my personal minecraft experience it taking a huge punch in the throat because of a few ppl with hoards of xp in a sign crying because they might actually have to do something besides sell xp for a living...
I'm asking for xp back in the ores.. my god doing /sell hand on bones and arrows and rotten flesh all day isn't what i had in mind for my minecraft exp... What about u???
Ty for your time and this is not a attack at shop owners this is a cry for help from the working man....
May your crops grow abundant and your picks stay dirty :)
MrBojangles73
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By separating mining and gathering experience you force people to do different things to get what they want. Right now you are forced to either, farm experience, or buy experience. And I think that's how it's supposed to be. You don't get experience from any other way of gaining money, why would mining get experience?
What are the gains of adding experience back to mining?
Why is it a problem that we simply reverted a change that mojang made that broke a market that used to be very much alive and rare?
What is bad about the current way of getting experience?
This looks more like a rant/complaint about "rich and lazy people" than an actual suggestion.-
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Dixan_Cider PrimeBuilder ⛰️ Ex-Mayor ⚒️⚒️ Premium Upgrade
Gaining experience from mining would be fine on a regular non-economy server, but on a hardcore economy server, it just does not make sense. Like kuke mentioned, you don't gain experience from other means of gaining money. If you added it back to mining, experience would be as worthless as flint, and eventually all enchanted items would be the same. By limiting experience gain to only mobs, this helps to separate different jobs (mining, fishing, farming, building, mob farming, etc). I don't think it would be good to combine multiple jobs into one action. Do you think that you should be able to mine a lapis block and get experience, fish, melons and have it build you a house at the same time?
In order to have it resemble an actual economy, you need them to be separate. You do the job(s) that you wish to do, then trade what you earn with those jobs for products that other jobs provide you do not wish to do.
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I too feel that adding exp back to mining is a terrible idea. As I stated in another xp related thread, xp is neither difficult nor expensive to obtain at this point in time.
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Do u know how many builders ive seen join the server and ask ..'how do i get my xp' and u reply by killing mobs.. then they go on this 2 hour cage mission to find a mob spawner only to place a torch and start grinding and someone magically drops down through the ceiling and busts the spawner right in front of them.. then the builder say the hell with this and disappears forever... getting xp is far from easy at this point and yes for a new guy or even a resident being able to afford to achieve the monies to get enough enough xp to even make good tools and armor is crazy...
As far as me ranting or whatever against the rich.. im not doing that at all.. i consider myself rich as well.. i have money more money stored than u can even imagine.. i have a son and daughter that plays ecc so u can just imagine what i mean by stored money....so being angry or jealous of the rich has nothing to do with it at all .. i have alot of rich friends on Ecc..
My point is xp should come from more than just mobs.. mob spawners can be destroyed and that limits the xp far more...
There is ppl on here that has basically dedicated their Ecc life to going around using/near or xray to do nothing more than destroy mob cages all day... really?? As if it isnt hard enough on the little man already to obtain xp anyways?
As for the statement that xp isnt expensive or hard to obtain.. when was the last time u have thought about how much xp it takes to make a max tool?... u may enchant once and get unb3 only then u drop another 2.5k and get a fort2 ..then u may drop another 2.5k and get god knows what.. then the little guy has to find someone that has anvil donation and pay them 1k to combo plus god knows how many more lvls of xp to achieve a good tool... so the statement u made wasn't thought out real well cause i didn't include the part of some dude sitting on over a mill falling through the ceiling and busting the lil dudes spawner... so don't try and convince me that xp is easy to obtain cause if u think that then your not actually playing the game...
In closing im gonna add that Andrewkm is gonna do what he wants to and he has maintained this server for 3+ years ...This shows he's doing something right..Im just throwing out an idea of having xp on something that cannot be took from the user like a mob spawner can..... Im making a suggestion and that is all..
Ty for any and all responses..there's no right or wrong answer when voicing ones opinion :p
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You used to get exp from cooking food like potatoes
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chewychunga BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️
They removed all locks from mining world for the exact reason people were locking spawners and Andrew didnt want that
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MrBojangles73 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️
u cant lock disposal signs either in the mining world
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chewychunga BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️
I see disposal signs being removed from mining world soon
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