Watch out! New legal scam

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  1. generaljoecool

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    It depends on the situation, though for the most part talking to a staff member in-game would allow them to make a decision. This isn't the first time two item names have over lapped, and leaving it up to a staff member to decide if they do or don't need more information.

    As for the flaming, it depends on how it is worded. Giving vague examples isn't the easiest thing to do for this example, so sadly that short sentence is all I can give to answer this question.

    As for what a regular player can do to prevent this, there isn't much options sadly. The best option is to inform a Staff Member that is currently free, and let them deal with the situation. Another option is to try and ask questions to the auctioneer to clarify what is being auctioned, and should he not answer should deter most users from bidding (hopefully). Without having a specific case in-front of me, those are the best tips I can give, as in the end most scams, though not all, are able to happen because the buyer allows it to, as they don't ask enough questions, or assume things they shouldn't.

    I hope this answers the questions you have, if not feel free to tag me and I'll try to clear them up.
     
  2. aracelas

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    No that was a perfectly reasonable answer. Thank you.
    It is also what I have tried to do previously as a fellow user. Ask questions of the seller but I was summarily (unsurprisingly) ignored.
    I think the rest of the prospective buyers got the message though :)
     
  3. ninjasniper78

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    Thanks for the heads up bro
     
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    Saw that one coming.
     
  5. aracelas

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    Because a certain segment of the population believe "by any means necessary" and "buyer beware"

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    Also I really think the younger skewing demo of this game/server is ripe for unscrupulous individuals who will freely take advantage of the young and inexperienced

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    Tbh, I think there should be some rule against this. It's obvious that the person hosting the auction knows what they're doing and they're exploiting the current horse egg price. Although hopefully this will die out due to the declining horse price.
     
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    Section 4 Clause II.i States that you must specify what an item you are selling is especially if its renamed (e.g. 'Rename dirt to Melon Sword and say in trade or auction , "Selling Melon sword $250K/starting at 200K!' would be illegal. You would have to specify that it is dirt renamed melon sword.)
    Yes I know that its not the same, thing, but its similar.
     
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  9. eekelmo

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    Bumping as I still see people fall for this
     
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    Wow, some people just want to watch the world burn. :mad:
     
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    It's simple, we kill the scammers!
     
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    Some people...
     
  13. eekelmo

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    BUMP
    This is an unfortunate bump, I still see this happening.
     
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    not too be rude or anything but its not a scam its the buyers of the eggs and melon and a swords fault they didnt read it fully so sorry but its no scam
     
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    Maybe not technically but it's certainly trolling

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    Bump
    Happened again with istomp
    ° sigh°
     
  17. _TANSTAAFL

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    iStompKittens is taking it to a new level. He asks "How much is a horse egg worth?" and then after you answer, "Wantt to buy an egg for 10k?".

    Then he sells you a chicken egg for 10k.
     
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    So effin frustrating...
    Staff please make this a higher priority
    Please please please

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    http://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/complaint.64096/


    and it continues.


    and the coup de grace is this quote

    i have a screen shot of me specifically saying an egg, not a horse egg, but an egg. therefore i have done nothing wrong


    to which i answer, yes you have sir. yes you have.

    This situation is growing quite tiresome

    if this isn't scamming, its certainly trolling. i don't understand why nothing is being done to stem the tide of these types of interactions.
     
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    http://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/complaint.64096/

    and of course Staff can't do anything about it.


    Washingtonc never specified that he was selling you a horse egg, he went through with the deal that he offered you. Just because you were trying to buy a horse egg does not mean that he was trying to sell you one in in these private messages. This is not illegal and no action will be taken.


    Intentionally deceiving people should be considered trolling and fall under the following category


    Section III: Trolling

    Clause I: General Trolling, Harassment and Common Sense

    This rule is simple. Don't troll (look up "Troll (Internet)") users away from the server.
    Harassment (gameplay and chat) is also very unwelcome and can get you punishment depending on the severity. Harassment includes, but is not limited to, bullying, any form of blackmail, and anything that falls under the rules for chat channels.


    What I really think needs to be enforced is this clause
    Don't bend the rules in any smart / troll-y way thinking you will get away with it and look like a genius. You won't. We do not appreciate users bending our rules in anyway to troll our community. If you see a rule that has a few loopholes, or can be bent in any way, report it to us and post it in our suggestion forum. We will gladly take a look at it and change it if need be. Finding ways around the rules will be treated under staff discretion and will result in warnings / kicks or worse. Use common sense, and don't troll the community.

    I don't understand why the linked thread isn't a precise example of "bending the rules" That is EXACTLY what the accused felon (and others like him or her) is guilty of.
    The fact that they flaunt this discrepancy between nomenclature is egregious and unacceptable in my opinion and I would really apprecaite it if Staff could reexamine how they are handling this kind of scam-that-is-not-a-scam.

    Anything? Any staff have a response? Is anything being done fix this situation or is the standard response of "its not illegal, its unfortunate but not illegal" still the company line? We are supposed to learn to live with the pseudo-legality of this kind of transaction.
     
    #40 dork1877, Aug 6, 2013
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