Threat of Grief in use of third party players by: Windowless_van

Discussion in 'Player Reports' started by ElderWolfAngel, Sep 26, 2016.

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Is this acceptable to have players use third party individuals to do their dirty work?

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  2. No it's griefing all the same and should be dealt with by all involved.

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  1. ElderWolfAngel

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    I have here a confession and proof that the player in survival named Windowless_van may if not already has used third party players to commit grief on survival the images below are of an argument of which we came into and through it not only does he admit to this possibility but he also disrespects the very staff of aem stating , "Ohh noes a bunch of 12 yro's will suspect me". I find this player in high violation of the aem terms and conditions considering the rules, I feel he poses a threat to the community and should be removed permanently from survival if not all of aem entirely. I'm placing this as a public file because I can't fully trust that one staff member will give the proper judgement on this case but instead should be viewed and discussed by more than a single individual.

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  2. pokeball92870

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    I understand where you come from when you say that this is a confession-
    However, we need solid evidence of grief (aka video, the grief itself, etc.) to really make any judgements here. I hope you understand.
    I mean, let's be real for a second here- the guy could be joking. Innocent until proven guilty. This isn't sufficient evidence.
    Don't let this scare you away from reporting players though! We highly appreciate threads like these!

    cheers
     
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    As you can clearly see from the photos placed van states "Why would I need a ban? there are people willing to be banned for me." to which he clarifies his involvement following "They Don5t even play here. they would get on and do my bidding with no questions asked. don't be silly we're a crime syndicate it's what we do". Ladies and gentlemen this confession of involvement may seem shaky to some but to myself and those who see the context of this chat can clearly find that windowless_van is an unfit and unworthy player on aem let alone on SURVIVAL. And if this individual has shown this how many others could be claimed guilty of the same offense? we may never know but in this time of distrust and unease I'm merely doing my duty as an honorary member of aem to protect it's reputation from scum like this.

    I am not innocent of my own transgressions. I admit I am not an easy individual to get along with but I am one who seeks a civil and somewhat respectable server here where I don't have to worry about outside parties getting involved just to have the guilty get away scott free.
     
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    If I felt this was a joke pokeball, I wouldn't take it seriously at all but the fact is there never could be a full conviction if he's using other people to do this act. what this is however is a clear statement that the possibility is very real and very much possible but who would suspect van if the grief was done by a lackey who he used to do it for him?
     
  5. pokeball92870

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    Hey, I completely understand where you're coming from here, I'm a three year vet of AEM too, through and through.

    However, things have certainly changed. Bans are now global on AEM, meaning if someone gets banned on one server, it applies to the whole network. That being said, bans carry a lot more weight around here, and I at least think it would be a little unethical to ban somebody based on text and not a clear-cut form of evidence. I hope you understand.

    That being said, if you're willing to carry on here, I'm all ears. I do enjoy a good discussion, especially with somebody who can talk civilly!

    cheers
     
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    As I stated later I'm not expecting justice to be done here I've accepted that many get away with atrocities that they shouldn't have I'm sure I'm among them even but a threat of this magnitude to me is unacceptable be it a joke or not.
     
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    So as I expected I'm basically left with a pointless casefile against another individual who more than likely due to his connections with various mods and admins gets away though I suppose this could leave me to suspect any grief I get I can blame on van then since he has an obvious motive and confession of action, I suppose the best I can do at this point is /ignore him and be done with it.
     
  8. pokeball92870

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    I respect your concern, but I'd like you to take a step back here for a second. I don't really appreciate the passive-aggressive nature in your replies, and I'd like to let you know that I'm only trying to help out here. We all interpret things differently, and I personally see nothing wrong here. I mean, his town is called Cake Cartel, and based on that name I can infer that there's a bit of roleplay going on here.

    Now, staff can see who breaks/places blocks. If we ever catch a player in the wrong, we will take measures to punish that player. While this may not affect players who don't play on AEM, it takes out another one of the accounts that Windowless_Van can supposedly hire to grief the server. I am NOT going to ban a player based on claims they make in text. Hacking or scamming are different in this matter, and we'll take those more seriously than a claim that a player can hire 'hitmen' to take down player's structures.

    However, this probably won't satisfy you. I'll be sure to warn Windowless_Van as soon as I can. I'm stuck in the middle an essay and thought I'd check on the forums in-between papers. Hopefully I didn't strike you in the wrong way- it's cool to see AEM vets around here and there.

    Thanks for the report!
     
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    I'd also like to make a remark on this statement. AEM staff do not endorse any player based on connections/past relations and interactions. We hope that our players hold us accountable that we treat each of you equally. AEM, for all the time it has been up, has had staff members that break this rule. Do not let that sway your judgement of us. We prioritize players based on the order of when we get our requests, not a 'friendship system.'
     
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    Ya i believe that the third party did it because they though own it would be cool to destroy someones hard work and creations
     
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    If you have nothing to contribute pilgrim then don't waste our time with pointless ridicule.
     
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    Pilgrim is Windowless_Van
     
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    Statement holds regardless what name or what account he uses he's a prime suspect for every future grief I face simple as that.
     
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