Add mobs to Survival Games arenas

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  1. purplelegoender

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    Suggestion:
    I am suggesting that we add mobs such as skeletons, zombies, creepers, and spiders to SG.
    Reason:
    I am suggesting this because it would bring PVP to a higher level on ECC. Users would not just have to worry about fighting each other but other mobs as well. It could also give you the chance to get a bow or string and ingredients to make certain tools to fight other users with instead of always having to find them. This could also work with potions as you all know creepers/spiders drop items that could be used to create certain potions which would be helpful, though I'm not sure if Jamie would wish to add the ability to create/find potions in SG again as it gave a tactical advantage against other users in during kit free matches. This could also help against people who "love" to camp in SG all the time.

    I just feel this will add a better side to the Survival Games since it is "Survival".

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    #1 purplelegoender, Dec 19, 2016
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    This would require a LOT of custom coding and work to make this possible. To name one of the issues- mobs would kill you while frozen in deathmatch, and there could be possible bugs that allow them to spawn in arenas that haven't even started yet.

    Even if it was easy to add, I wouldn't want it because mobs don't belong in SG. It's challenging enough against other players, I don't know why mobs need to be added.
     
  3. purplelegoender

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    Because it offers more of a challenge as well as it can be used to distract players from other players when they are attacked by the mobs. It also, as I stated above, adds another level of Survival to the games which would be quite interesting because you said "players are already challenging" if players are more of a challenge then what are the mobs to the players? If you can defeate the players then you can defeat the mobs, otherwise I don't see a problem here.

    Even if they spawn while the match is beginning, they can't hurt you due to the grace period so you'll be fine. And even at Death Match it won't be a real exact problem as it's not even a ten second spawn wait so that's barely any damage done and even if they are hitting you, it's Survival, deal with it.
     
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    sounds annoying
     
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    Oh my, I am so glad I used ECC's downtime during the 1.11 upgrade to collect some data on creepers...



    --- 314's empiric creeper damage values in Singleplayer on easy mode ---

    The following values are based on even ground (without creeper world damage) at point-blank range. Ten experiments were conducted for each armor level, the following values are the most extreme outcomes.
    Note: This data combines creeper explosion damage and the fall damage from being literally blown up.

    The following health values resulted from full armor at full health without potion effects or armor enchantments.

    Diamond: 5.5 hearts remaining.
    Iron: 3.5 hearts remaining.
    Gold: 2 hearts remaining.
    Leather: "You died!" (In most cases around 0.5-1.5 hearts remaining.)
    No armor: Forget about survival.




    Especially creepers are a factor that can't be ignored with a simple "deal with it" - if the random chance that your spawn position is close to a creeper is enough to make you lose the game with a pretty high probability, then SG is going to become even more of a problem than it already is.
     
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    Then we simply do not add creepers and just have the skeletons and zombies.
     
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    No thanks
     
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    When there aren't any players left to kill in SG so we're requesting mobs instead...

    What a state to be in.
     
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    No @Nicit6, you're trying to twist my words in this suggestion into something that they aren't truthfully. What I am applying to here is to add mobs into SG while during player matches to be a distraction toward players who are fighting each other such as per example when a user is attacking another user the zombie/skeleton/spider will shoot them with a bow or hit them around while both trying to fight the user and the monster.

    If you can take on the players then you can simply take on Minecraft monsters taking in they would be hard to run into due to that they only spawn during the night except for creepers (which don't really need to be added) & the spiders (which don't attack you during the day time). This would also allow users to not camp in games if they don't want to experience the mobs during the night.
     
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    It's a joke. Because no one plays sg
     
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    it was a joke but okay
     
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    I'm sorry, but it's hard to tell a joke while in during a I guess serious matter.
     
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    Actually, no.
    Just enable mob spawning in those worlds, kill all every 15 minutes.

    The problem as you said, is that during deathmatch, you could be killed.

    And having them spawn in arenas yet to start is fine, provided they don't attack you while frozen.
     
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    Are you considering this Jamie?
     
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    More so explaining that it's more feasible than expected.
     
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    This would be useless
     
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    No it would not actually. If you say that then you must not of have played Minecraft to be honest. Lol.
     
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    To also add onto what I said, the mobs can supply materials to craft some weapons such as a bow. You can/could also get the materials to make potions to use against other players to your advantage. You may also be able to get them killed using the mobs to your advantage if you're smart enough.
     
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    Don't make the assumption that he hasn't played the game just because he disagrees with the suggestion. I've played Minecraft for five years and I don't like the idea adding mobs to SG.

    This isn't a survival world where mobs are important. It's survival games.
     
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    Obviously, I'm not making an assumption that he hasn't played the game. I was simply joking saying that due to the fact that he said adding mobs are useless to SG, In which they aren't as for the reasons stated in the actual suggestion itself and the comments I have posted.
     
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