• Minecraft Name:
  • Expipiplusone
• Suggestion:
  • Dismiss regions whose owners (both official owner and all legal owners) are permabanned or inactive for more than 1 year.
  • [EDIT]: This is a work in progress, please read the whole discussion before judging, as I might alter the suggestion a bit following useful remarks!
• Reason:
  • Ghost towns are a huge waste of land and, if there's no reason for a region boundary, then there should be no region boundary!
• Other Information[/b]:
  • Yes, if someone wants the land inside inactive region A, I guess they could claim it (if they have a claim available), but what if they want to create a region B that overlaps A but is not identical, both in size and absolute position? An obvious example is if you want to expand your nation on the side of your current towns, but there's another region on the way, that you never consented to because it's more than 15 blocks away, but which is still much less than 200 or 100 blocks away:
    • one thing is if that's an active region: ok, no way, I get it, I'll change my plans;
    • but why on Earth should an inactive wasteland prevent the expansion of an active nation?
  • Currently, there's just no way to overcome this problem: at least, none that I know of.
• Link To This Plugin/Is this a custom addition?:
  • No plugin, just a change in policy.

Even in case this couldn't be implemented for any insurmountable reason that I know nothing of, please don't lock this right off anyway, because maybe with some discussion we could find an alternative that would still solve the problem and could also be implemented instead. Thank you :)

 

Both good points. But both would be easily solved making it not automatic: an app from a Mayor+ could be required, for instance. Maybe only people owning towns within 215 blocks from the inactive town could be allowed to make such a request. It could also cost ECDs: hell, I would even pay 100k to get rid of such a nuisance!

The same could be said for people being evicted from a recently claimed town: in that case, the new owner just has to make an eviction notice a few days before. If that is acceptable, then a prior notice should be acceptable in this case as well. They wouldn't even have to remove their locks, as their property would now be in the wild (yes, grief-able, but no lwc-removal unless part of the area is later claimed with a new town creation).
Also: I think it very unlikely for a town to have active members when all the owners are inactive, but if there still are, then that town must be pretty interesting and people would probably just try to claim it, rather than ask for it to be dismissed.

Of course those would have to be removed as well, as there's no town anymore, but would it take really long? If so, maybe make it cost more?

 

I thought of that, but I would have to keep the name of the region: name change will never be implemented because it would be a nightmare worse than this, so the "easiest" way (also for staff, I think) to have a town where I want with the name I want is to just delete the old mess and start from scratch. Or would a name change be less of a hassle?
By the way, why was the town move option removed in the first place?
And now that I think about that, I don't get why deleting a region would be the bane of your existence: wouldn't that be much much simpler than changing its boundaries or its name? I recall when I applied for President, the name of the town was mixed up with the name of the nation: when I pointed out the confusion, only Phys could solve the issue (she was the owner at the time) and she just deleted the region and made a new one, because it was much faster and simpler than changing the name.

 

Argh, it was under President+ and not Mayor+, that's why I couldn't find it anymore! (I knew I saw it somewhere a long time ago!)

Ok, let's put aside the name and let's put aside the maximum distance as well: there's still no way to resize it, is there? It's still a big con.

About town features, I don't understand: if the town has no features, then there's no trouble deleting it, like Phys did. But if it has warp, portals, pvp areas etc, then are those moved as well? And if they are not (as I imagine), what if their position is outside of the new boundaries? Even if the applicant is required to provide new boundaries that still include everything (but this is not written in the instructions), staff would still have to triple-check this before they proceed.
I mean, I don't see how features can be a more serious issue when deleting a region than when moving it. I probably miss something, but I can't see.

 

I highlighted a major point in the suggestion, as it seems many didn't read it

 

Then what about claims? Currently you can claim a towns only 6 months after the owner is inactive, half as much as the 1 year in my suggestion.

However town claim + town move (as Nicit suggested) is not sufficient, for the reasons expressed in my replies: how would you solve those issues? If you think that what I'm trying to do could be done without implementing this suggestion, great! Tell me: how would you do that?

 

Argh, this is an extremely good point and I think it's stronger than all the previous remarks taken together :(

Ok, I withdraw the suggestion (sigh) there's too many and too big issues that I didn't think of.