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Town ApplicationsWhat are you suggesting:
1.When a player applies for a new town should have the option to have part or all ofWhy is this a good addition for EcoCityCraft?:
their 85k town application fee to be paid to other players that wish to help
build the applicants town. This option would be in place of all of the ECD
going back to the server. The players that are receiving part of the 85k town
application fee, can work to help develop the town in return for the money.
a)This suggestion should add an option giving the applicant two choices
when applying for a town.
i.One being a partial payment to other players. And/or a partial
payment to the server.
ii.Second, being the “traditional” way of the whole 85k fee going to the
server
b) This suggestion should NOT force the town applicant to find players in
order to start their town. I am only suggesting that the applicant can have
part of their 85k they have to pay anyway go towards other players if they
so choice.
c) An example of this is when a player posts an application for a new town,
they add the names of the players to be paid and the amount along with
the coordinates, the town name and other required Town information
with-in the application.
d) If the town applicant choices to add other players to be paid with the
town application fee, this should be irreversible once the players are
listed on the application. (Town applicants should verify the requested
work is completed to their satisfaction before adding players on their
application.)
I feel this would be good to the server for two reasonsOther information:
1. This would give players another option of making ECD.
2. Players that are hired to help the town could use the same money they are
paid with to buy a plot with-in the town or spend the ECD else where,
"stimulating the economy".
Inflation needs to be taken into consideration when/if determining the amount to be paid to each player for hire. (the mod approving, Andrew, staff, could be a fixed number of ECD or fluctuating)Plugin or custom addition:
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I don’t think you should get that application fee back at all. It’s part of the process... you get 200x200 blocks to make money from.
Imagine if you built a farm how quickly you could exponentially earn on the refunded money...
This is a so called “Hardcore Economy”.
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I am suggesting the player buying the town pay other players with part of the town application fee. Not for the town applicant to get the money back.
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This way the town applicant only pays 85K and gets the town built.
Using the traditional way the town applicant has to pay 85K + the work for each user who helps build/clear. -
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All that aside.. You are buying exclusive rights to the town land you pay that 85k for. The server gives up the right to tell you how to use it... Other than inappropriate structures... If you want help you will have to raise those funds as well.
That's how an economy works. You're a land owner now!
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-1 if you buy a house irl for 200k, should the money be then given to the builders, engineers, and architects who do future work on it? No. It goes to the bank.
We are a hardcore economy server, not a communist server.-
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Give players more options to make ECD, while at the same time the town owner can get some help for money they already have to spend. This could be a way to give players another option to make money with out farming, mining or other wise doing something repetitive.
There are plenty of examples/situations where the "rich" (the haves) either pay taxes or donate/fund other programs that help the economy. I love this server, feel I would love it more and the server could prosper more from programs like this where players have a chance to interact and exchange more goods and services.
I guess I miss the part in my suggestion and the feed back thus far how this could hurt the economy or individual player
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There point is to soak money out of the economy. If there is to much cash floating around you get unmitigated inflation. This takes money out of circulation. As @Jdawger said. It's not a communist server. You buy something you pay for it. Then if you want to improve on it you pay for that. *Shrug*
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As I begin to think about the logic below,
"You buy something you pay for it. Then if you want to improve on it you pay for that. *Shrug*"
Should we exclusively buy everything I need/want from the server?
What about when I mine and then turn around and sell those ores/items to other players? Wouldn't inflation be cut down even more if I sold those items I mined to the server/sell hand? The point I am trying to make is every one prospers when we make exchanges.
The same is true in this suggestion. I am not suggesting that the owner of the town give the whole 85k to other players for free. The owner/applicant has to pay the ECD to buy a town, nothing chances there. In a real economy the money you pay for a house/town is to other companies/people. Even if 5k was the max a town owner could pay a player and 80k went to the server, I figure this would be a prefect example.
If I interpret your logic correctly, then I am giving money away for free when I think I am "paying" a player to clear land.
I believe the idea or concept of communist is when no one/every one owns everything. What I am suggesting is for one player to own a single town. I
After reading your response FuriuosGeorge, I can see how my suggestion can be easily interpreted as "communist" with the already required ECD being paid to a group/single players to help with a town. Please keep in mind I am only suggesting an additional option when buying a town.
Option One: What I suggesting
Option Two: Elect no players to be paid or help with your town and all 85k going to the server. -
If you want to pay players for a town, you can do that, just buy an existing town from a player.-
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As an example listed below:
75k paid to the server
10k paid to another player hired by the town applicant to help build the town
Please keep in mind I am suggesting this as one option,
I am also suggesting players can pay their traditional 85k directly to the server with no player help. -
We’ve been doing the same thing regarding town apps since the beginning. Nobody is thinking what we have is bad except you.-
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jkllong2004 BuilderBuilder ⛰️ Ex-President ⚒️⚒️ Premium Upgrade
I feel my suggestion is something "new" or "different" or a possibility that can improve the town application experience.
I am unaware of how you can KNOW what the WHOLE community is thinking. I mean my last sentence with the up-most respectful tone I can convey.
(but by guessing from your response if I was observing this post I would not want to respond for fear of what you would say next)
Just because something hasn't changed, doesn't mean it cant be improved.
I would make a guess that there are others out there like myself that would like to suggest radical changes but would like to for-go the backlash.
I can understand wanting to keep things the same but improvements will never happen with out change.
I understand change itself is not inherently improvement.
I wish I could of made this response a bit more condensed, but I responded in a way in which I feel would be most beneficial to others that would like to make other radical suggestions. You are not alone.
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