Accepted [SG Server Suggestion] Remove/Shorten Invisibility Potions

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  1. Capbo_

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    What part of EcoCityCraft is this suggestion for:
    SG Server
    Short title for your suggestion:
    Remove/Shorten Invisibility Potions
    What are you suggesting:
    Completely remove invisibility potions in SG or shorten the duration.
    Why is this a good addition for EcoCityCraft?:
    People can camp in GC matches for too long, holding up games. It ruins the flow of SG matches by making people run around for 10 minutes trying to find someone.
    Other information:

    Plugin or custom addition:
    Not sure which plugin but probably essentials
    One suggestion per form:
    I Understand.
     
  2. OtterInAOnesie

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    -1 I, for one, love crouching in a corner invisible during death matches til the game times out. Moreover, I thoroughly enjoy farming builders via killing them while totally undetected. Please don't do it.
     
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    #3 NossaFlossa, Apr 15, 2020
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  4. Capbo_

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    That fails to account for several points:

    1. Even assuming I have hunter, that doesn't prevent me from getting killed by some invisible person out of nowhere as I don't have my compass on me 24/7 closely paying attention. Nor do I know the direction of where the person is coming from. It's an unfair, unbalanced fight, plain and simple.

    2. This in turn gives an advantage to people who use hacked clients and their features, such as tracers and player esp. They effectively have a more efficient "compass" on them 24/7 and are thus the only people who aren't disadvantaged here.

    3. You can't expect newbies to have hunter, obviously. Being killed by some invis dude is the #1 complaint by those new to SG and it sours the gameplay for them. They won't buy any kits in the first place if they just conclude the whole game is bullshit.
     
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    -1, use the kit yourself and they won’t see you either
     
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    +1 - I say shorten the cooldown rather then remove the kit. We are getting rid of locations on the sg maps that are easily camped and we are kicking players who are camping. People use spy to just hide the whole time so I believe the duration of the invisibility should be shortened.
     
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    Imagine being some new player who loves SG, joining and then getting instakilled by some invis dude out of nowhere. I'd frankly quit. It's bullshit. +1
     
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    i do not understand, you can already see people whether they're invisible or not so why bother ?
     
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    -1. Invisibility is very useful when there are large teams targeting you. Spy allows you to easily slip away as opposed to being followed off spawn and instantly 5v1'd upon the start of a game.
     
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    -1 for this reason
     
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    1. If you've used kit hunter and aren't paying attention to it, that's on you. It updates with the player closest to you every couple seconds and you can definitely track someone while using it correctly.

    2. Of course people using hacked clients are going to have an advantage, that's the whole reason they're banned.

    3. Yes new players will be upset that they get killed by someone invisible, but they also complain about literally every single kit, so by this logic we should just make SG kitless.
     
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    As much as I hate invisibility, it is kinda balanced, given the fact that you can't have any armour on.
     
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    It's an SG kit...

    Turn up your volume, listen for footsteps..

    Open your eyes, look for the potion particles or footsteps..

    Get Kit Elemental Punch or Complete Control.. It has flame swords and bows.. These kits exist for a legitimate reason, to combat people who use Kit Spy

    Also, just shoot a bow, or use a fishing pole.. you'll eventually hit them or tag them and know where they are..

    Invisible people are so easy to kill, you land 2-3 hits on them and they're gone..

    This is like complaining about people teaming.. Y'all literally get in a team of 5 or 6

    If someone hacks or is hacking.. Anti-Cheat comes into play, or record them and file a complaint.. Can't remove a donation feature because someone decides to go against the rules, or uses it because they purchased it to use it to play and have fun in Survival Games.
     
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    LOL.
     
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    -1 I have kill plenty of invisible people if u have armor u are fine if not u just suck at sg and finding chest and memorizing a chest route to find stuff to easyly kill invisible people plus they have particles
     
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    We have shortened /kit spy's invisiblity time from 3 minutes to 2 minutes.
    @UnitedStates2 @ClarinetPhoenix please make the relevant wiki changes.
     
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    Updated.
     
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