[Short Suggestion] Texture Packs = Hacks

Last I knew, texturepacks highlighting invis pixels is just an unfair advantage that is highly frowned upon. I don't think it falls under the "hack" category (which usually changes actual game mechanics).

I can definitely see how it is unfair, but so is using default Minecraft F3 stats and data (pixels and entities nearby, etc). I don't play SG, so I dunno how much my word matters, but I'm -1 on this. It's too hard to track and therefore would be almost pointless to ban the use of advantage texture packs.

 

Turtwiginator95 all it is is someone editing the potion particles to big black squares. I for one do indeed have these particles because I don't like spy, I feel it ruins games just my opinion however that is not the question at hand, this basically makes /kit spy useless. There is no way to block this as it is just a texture pack. However this can be an excuse for the hack "tracer" (correct me if i'm wrong) but to tell if it is a hack or not check the distance at which the person saw you, I do believe you can see potion particles ~25 blocks away, any further and that is hard evidence of use of a hacked client.

 

I have kit spy plus. I think that taking these texture away from people would honestly take the fun out of spy. Despite this texture pack that everyone is talking about, i still get a HUGE advantage using kit spy. If you want to make it harder for people to kill you, go buy buffer and put on speed and strength, then eat a golden for its absorption.

I have to say -1 on this suggestion.

 

Sg kitters are already OP enough, no need to give them more power by taking away vulnerable spots. I agree with what OhMrsKittyKat said, I wouldn't go as far as calling it hacking
-1

 

This is just a way current MC functionality gives players who know how to use it an advantage, like hitboxes.

It's not an unfair advantage, because theoretically, at least, anybody can do it.

 

Just throwing this out there. It doesn't affect me wither way as I don't SG. How does this differ from texture packs that allow you to see through ores?

A texture pack is allowing someone to see something they would not normally be allowed to do with the default pack.

 

Well anybody can hack too. Does that mean it's legal?

 

No, this isnt what he is trying to to through. I think he is saying that this texture pack, like hitboxes, entity counter on f3, and texture packs are something easy to download, if not already in the game, and it is not a major change in the game. Hacks, however, are much more difficult and complex, much more OP or overpowered if you will, and are much more noticable.

 

Why is this thread here? What are we 'discussing' to come to an agreement to? I'm honestly confused now as these two statements, to me, are saying opposite things. lol.

 

Let me clarify, this does not change minecraft functionality in any way. "Hacks" alter your gameplay in some form, intentionally changing a particular variable to gain an actual advantage. With this, no advantage is gained - invisibility particles are already in the game. That's like saying we should ban players who turn up their gamma through the options.txt -- they're changing something from the way it is normally to gain an advantage, but they're only making something that's already there more visible, just like these particles do.

 

You said " This is not a thread discussing if it is ok for players to use it. "

I think it is exactly that. You think that players who use these 'hacks'/text packs, have an unfair advantage, and some of those players do not agree. They are trying to show why they feel it is ok to use those texture packs.

Personally I agree with you at this moment, but I honestly am just reading to gather more info as I am not an expert nor someone impacted. But it does lead to intersting future issues in my mind.

 

Yes, texture packs do "intentionally change a particular variable to gain an actual advantage".

Normal resource packs have small invisibility particles.
Modded resource packs have big and bright colored particles, giving you an advantage.

Minecraft allows you to hit people.
Hacking allows you to hit much better, giving you an advantage.

It's practically the same thing.

 

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In regards to "using what is available to us".... I think I remember kuke saying that using the debugger (F3) screen to search for entities was illegal. So I don't know how that fits in. Maybe it has changed or I am remembering it wrong.