[Suggestion] Deleting "Bump Posts" on Appeals

+1 I'm kind of surprised they don't do this

 

I'm not entirely sure how this works so I have a question for staff. When a post is made normally it moves the thread to the top of the page. When a post is deleted does this effect still happen or is the effect negated? @nicit6

 

The thread will be re-organized based off the last post, so yes, it will reset to where it was before it was bumped.

I don't think the Staff should delete post "bumps" as a thread being bumped will either slow down the processing of their appeal, or have no effect. The reason for being that a Staff Member looking at the list of pending appeals, they should handle the ones waiting the longest that are not reserved by a certain Staff Member, which appear closer to the bottom As such, the post being closer to the bottom of the first page should increase the speed of it being handled. Therefore, deleting their post would be counter-productive since it would still allow them to process at the same speed, and annoy them as their post was deleted, regardless of if it broke a rule.

As for the alert, the person that will do the final processing of the appeal rarely is the Staff Member that does the warnings before hand, and if they are the same person, they are going to have to take the time to issue a forum warning before they handle the appeal, therefore delaying their appeal even further.

 

If this is the case -1

 

The reason for that is that there are two ways of doing that, and neither solver the problem:

Option 1: Warn through the forum warning system and delete the post -- The reason this doesn't work is that would reset the post to where it was before they bumped it, and allow them to be processed and the normal rate, instead of the slower rate which bumping the post puts them into. In addition, if it was deleted, there would be no way for a normal user that is looking for appeals to see if they did it, and if they were warned for it.

Option 2: Warn in the thread with a post by the staff member, and delete the post -- While this would bump the post again, slowing it down even further, it would make no practical difference if their post is deleted or not. Having the staff not delete the post is also better for record keeping if someone wants to review the post later on to see exactly what they said.

 

First off, this is going to quickly become a straw-man argument, seeing as you yourself just said the reason they do it is because it is "inappropriate" which is not the same thing as this. "Inappropriate" when it comes to editing out those screenshots are due to breaking rules of the server, and the forums, which the staff determine is best to remove. Bumping your post is breaking the code of conduct (section rules) of the Ban Appeal section, and should be treated differently as it is a different type of infringement that is not "inappropriate". Now if removing those images are a good idea or not, is something best suited for a different suggestion.

 

Staff members can see what a post was before it was edited, and after each edit, so we can still see photos. They are removed so that normal players can't see the inappropriate-ness.

Now, with regards to the suggestion, we usually work on complaints that are on the second page first, then from bottom to top, so bumping is essentially making your appeal take longer.

 

Well the issue with bumps is it disrupts the system (correct me if I'm wrong). When someone posts an inappropriate picture the harm isn't it disrupting the system the harm is it can be viewed by regular users and thus people can view the inappropriate content which is deemed harmful to ECC. When staff edits out the picture regular users can't see it but staff still can. Therefore reccord is still kept and the harm of it is taken out.