Suggestion: Remove all Sg kits, and reimburse those who bought kits with the equivalent amount purchased in ECC Shop coupons. Reason: 1. Would hopefully make SG more popular, with both new and old players 2. Hopefully bring in more players, or at least less players will leave after being killed by that invisible guy with strength and an enchanted stone sword :/. 3. ECC Has around 60-70 players at peak time... It used to be 300. It's rare that you find sg games going on at all now... Some people enjoy ECC being a bit smaller... But for business to run - and the player built economy to grow - we need to start somewhere. 1.9 just came out and I really think this would be a great change. 4. I used to hate the suggestions about removing kits, and how it was unfair... I suppose I didn't really care - 1 person quits SG, 299 more to go... It's no like that anymore Other Information: I have Make it Quick++, Buffer++, Perfect Fit++, Spy++, Complete Control +, So I am not just asking that the people with kits lose them, I would be too. I seriously hope you consider this... Again, it is rare to find SG games going on these days - and I'd hope to think that atleast 90% of the people with kits, would prefer playing SG, then keeping their kits... Link to this plugin/Is this a custom addition?: No plugin Thanks, DeMacca
Id be fine with this and I have ccpp eapp bfrpp spyp but id want all the money that ive spent on kits with ecd and thatd be a lot to refund, Andrew would presumeably have to refund those users and that would hit the server hard, over 50% of are donations are kits so that wouldn't end well in hind sight and the sg is not what is dropping the playercount
Alright, thanks for the input 1. Maybe make it possible to choose between ECD return at like 3k/usd - or in Shop coupons? 2. Andrew does not refund users in USD, therefore no harm to the server's funds 3. I believe fair Sg with the Economy will bring more players in...
This is really, just unfeasible - It will cost the server thousands upon thousands of dollars in potential revenue. I think we should stop trying to fix SG in general and shift our focus to a new minigame, like kit-pvp or skywars.
Thanks for the input, A) Alright, when you say $1000s in revenue 1. Andrew wont refund in USD 2. Right now - SG is dead... I doubt the server would be making much in SG kit purchases... B) Would kit pvp or Skywars be linked with the Economy like Sg is? If so will SG remain dead / would we even keep SG considering no one plays it? And if that were the case - what would happen to the money we spent on kits...
I know SG is currently dead... 0 Games at all... But in the last 1-2 months I have been here I rarely see games.
It's a great idea and I would love to see this implemented and I myself have even spent $50 on kits however I don't think it's manageable. If Andrew were to infact refund all users with ECC shop coupons with the values worth of kits, that's $1,000's of USD that will not be purchased for weeks and weeks because people would just be using up their coupons apposed to actually donating which could possibly take a decent toll on the server. SG is at a point where I don't believe it is actually able to be salvaged, I would just suggest for us a player base to come together on a NEW minigame and stop the problem before it ever occurs. I myself would love to see a mini-game that had even odds for all players. Cheers for the idea unfortunately I just don't think it'll work out.
I see where you are coming from... Yet - I feel if a new minigame were to be implemented... Our kits bought in SG would become worthless... Anyway - thank you for proposing a solution... It would be great if more people could do so
You're suggesting to refund in coupon codes which will still reduce potential revenue by thousands as people will spend more with coupon codes than with actual money - And SG being dead is completely irrelevant; Many players have hundreds of dollars in kits regardless of whether they play SG or not. It's been stated numerous times by the administration that the Network as a whole will have an intertwined economy, so yes. As far as the money players have spent on kits though, kit users have made millions upon millions of dollars from SG - It's really just time for them to move on with the immense amount of money they made.
Yeah possibly, or create is so, if they want their money in coupons they must Forum PM the staff. Worst comes to worst, have kits paid back to users at 1k/usd+?
1k a usd is a scam to all the users who bought kits some payed up to 7k and going way below doesn't seem fair, 5k would be a better price
3 options 1. Do something, it's rough, but there is actually a real chance sg may recover and become more popular and even bring in new players. The problem is anyone who spent money may be upset ofc. As we can see some who have would actually support this tho. 2. Do nothing, abandon sg's corpse and incoming less broken mini games become the popular activity on the server. Sg becomes a ghost town. 3. Down the line add some kit free pvp either as mirrored arenas or actually a whole new mini game server in the lobby devoted to kit free sg and try to let that coexist with the kitting sg. Kitting sg dies. -the hidden subtext in options 2 and 3 is that kitter's kits will still be and in fact already are, devalued. It has been devalued already by being broken. Really the best way to recover value from usd spent on kitting AND to revive sg on the server is for kitters to take some gesture like ecd for usd or some kind of exclusive medals/items and let kits go. We are sitting at a point where sg is not very busy and is played only by the same few people most of the time. Kitting can't even be that rewarding right now and when the new mini game comes it will be even more dead. At this point it is almost childish to hold on to kits so hard as the value of kits rapidly approaches zero zilch nada ecd/usd/fun.
