not -1'ing just because it's matrix, but it's the players responsibility

http://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/user-complaint-usernameofdeath.132257/#post-717184

 

yes, but the user is responsible

 

+100000 plz make this a thing!

 

Yes the buyer is responsible but do we really want people to be able to mis lead like this? Think about how much people could take advantage of builders who have no clue how a trade sign works. If I fall for it for sure other people will. Buyer be ware is not the kind of environment we want on ECC. We want scammers to be banned and we want people to feel safe doing transactions. I think your -1 would be different if you were the person who mis read a sign and sold ur weeks worth of hard work for 20k.

 

-1 have some common sense and read what you are buying.

 

Yes have some common sense but how would it hurt you if this went into affect? Unless ur planning on mis leading people into selling you things it would not change anything for you but it would bennifit many other players.

 

So I'm in favor of the general idea of the suggestion, and we do ban false advertising when specific (ie if matrix's sign red "Buy Nstars $500" that'd be illegal).

However when we get to vague things like this it becomes more difficult - what do we define a "good deal" as? What do we define "crazy pricing as"? Sure, you can say x% above market value, but can we define "market value"? Sure of course we can say staff discretion but then, look at what happens with vulgar language? If going to be stricter we need clear cut rules. And I don't see how we would make these clear cut.

 

it'd hurt me cause i'd have less freedoms. i have nothing to scam anyone with cause well i have nothing at all so yeah

 

Yes it might be hard to make it clear cut but I also don't see an issue with staff digression. The staff team makes good decisions and if they talk it over and they see malicious intent then I they could punish how they see fit. Without some rules I place what is to stop me from offering to buy bulders nstars for a great price and since most of them barely know how to use trade signs I could easily scam them. Some set of rules needs to be put in place to stop things like this from happening.

 

Why do you want the freedom to scam though? Yes we all need freedom but is this something you really care that much about?

 

Define overpriced. That's what I'm asking you to do. Give me a definition of overpriced that I can incorporate into the rules.

 

no i just want people to learn to have common sense and not rely on safety nets everytime they have a choice to make

 

Define market value in a way that I can incorporate into the rules.

 

Ya I do like this. I think if it would be relitivsly clear cut if someone does 700 for 10 anther stars so it looks like 1 nether star. This is clear intent to scam. The user picked 10 because it looked like 1 and 700 because it's 100 above market price so people would be exited to sell. They could have done 11 or 12 but that would be obvious. It would not be to hard for staff to tell what was going on in this situation.

 

If it's a buy sign and it's below market value by 30% and if it's a sell sign and its above market value by 30% this gives buffer for charging more to maximize profits but makes it so people can't trick other people into buying things. Market price is easily calculated based off looking at a few other spawn shops and seeing what they are selling the item for.