The EcoCityCraft Financial Commission

We have this already. His name is Andrew

 

@picasso182, When you say "...The help of the whole of EcoCityCraft as a virtual government," and "...with your help," do you mean the Staff's help, as a server-wide instituted commission, or just a players' union?

 

I like the idea of having required permits and allowable casinos, pretty much overall casino regulations. Currently there's only rules about scamming that don't specifically pertain to casinos. But I think it's a little foolhardy to think that people who have invested and run their current casinos will join a player based commission that they actually have no responsibility towards. Unless you have some sort of incentive they will have no reason to listen to this "Commission". Also as I say I would like regulations, it's very hard to prove/disprove cheating by the owner and also it's a gambling system, not some sort of transaction. You pay to have a chance to win, even if that chance is 0%, you still pay. The main regulation I would want is probably insurance that the chance to win is not 0%.

Also remember, gambling and lotto are completely optional. They are for pure fun, not profit.

 

Before I take the time to formulate a full response, I need to know if this a suggestion directed at the players or a suggestion directed at the staff team. @picasso182

 

Alright, so clearly the intention is a staff run commission with Andrew in charge. Sadly, I don't think that is realistic. 1) The staff have a lot to do without checking constantly into casinos. 2)Andrew has even more to do than the staff do. On top of that is the plain fact that players can change their casino.

So lets say the Commission leaders sell a license to User A and User B. User A then goes an now has the legal right to make a casino. User A makes a casino and no problems occur with their casino. User B however makes a rigged casino. When he notices the staff are checking on casinos, he unrigs it. After the staff have checked his casino and call it good to go, he rigs it again. Meanwhile User C starts an 'illegal' 'unauthorized' casino. He keeps it quiet and we never find out about him.

This brings up two questions 1) how do we stop User B from rigging the casino after we've checked it. 2) How do we discover that User C is using an illegal casino.

Essentially what I'm saying is that this suggestion is impractical.

 

I think that actually drives my point home. This is overly complicated for one. Secondly, if we the staff are paying players to investigate for us, then we are spawning in money and they might be lying about what they found. The staff don't even get paid for what we do and we do a lot more than just hunt down casinos.

So at this point, we are involving the staff, Andrewkm, and a commission of people the server is paying to track down these casinos. The suggest calls for frequent casino checks across the world of ECC. Ontop of that, we haven't even discussed what happens if an illegal casino is found.

There are only like 8 staff members with world perms. This means only 8 staff members could break the casinos via grief. Only 1 staff member with world edit which means only 1 person who could world edit them out.

Frankly, @picasso182 it'd be simpler just to outlaw casinos.

 

When you say increase the net income of the server, do you mean the amount of money players are making?

 

Again, I would like to reiterate you do not have to participate in any casino if you don't want to. I think what you should probably focus on is maybe trying to get one of two things: (1) Banning all casinos from the server or (2) Writing up a plugin/mod for the server to implement casinos like lottery is set-up.

The first follows suit with what @reevanrose6 said about moderating the casinos. The second would address the issues of oversight over casinos but it's still not an easy task to take on. Demanding change with inconsistent ultimatums is not going to get you what you want. Just because you get told things you don't like, don't start quoting random Latin.

In regards to the "endless source of money": There is an unlimited amount of money open for everyone. The only restrictions are time and dedication. If you're upset that there are griefers (though few) then kick everyone out of your town and keep it to yourself. If you're upset about rich donators, get some "rich donators" to buy you donations through ECD. This started out as a fairly interesting idea about casino regulation but now it's diverting into many different places it's hard to see where you're going with all this.

 

I personally don't care about the casino's however maybe it should be added to the rules that any player may be permitted to know the odds of winning and have a right to ask. This however is not a problem because if anyone truly wanted to find out they probably could.

 

I'm not sure what is wrong about it that is what has worked for me. Including at the person you mentioned earlier (stoler). I don't know of any rules against making your own business out of it that is unrelated to the staff though.

 

Andrewkm > game admin > super mods > mods = 3+ years of successful community. I see no reason to change something that is still working. ^~^ #ECC forever

 

@picasso182 stoler202 doesnt cheat, I made sure before I played in his casino


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