Minecraft Name: CaptainWow12 Suggestion: Add to the Tp+ rule and define what is abuse of the feature. Such as adding that using the feature to get into unreachable areas is illegal. Reason: The lack of definition creates confusion. Any Other Information: Caused a ban of two players because it was not a stated rule. Link To This Plugin/Is this a custom addition?: Just a rule change.
Yeah, putting down specific examples is a good way to go But as for the people who got banned, it was blatantly obvious that their actions counted as abuse. If they can’t put 2 and 2 together, they may as well be banned
Clause 3 - Exploits Abuse of any exploits, bugs, or glitches can result in a punishment based on the severity of abuse. Those are unfair "advantages" that can cause major issues for everyone on the server. When exploits are found, they need reported to the server owner immediately. Being a good sport and reporting issues (mainly severe exploits) could benefit you more than abusing them would. Game play is to be kept fair for everyone. Clause 1: Teleport and Teleport Plus There is to be no abuse of our teleport feature. seems fairly straight forward to me
In my opinion, as much as this is a bad thing, I feel that it would be hard to enforce as (by technicality), if there is a way to get into said area without using the feature, then it is not illegal. This would require staff to do multiple checks to see if the said area truly is “unreachable” without use of the feature. In short, I feel like this rule should be like the unlocked chest rule (if it’s unlocked, then it’s free game). I mean, yes using tp+ to get there is technically feature abuse, but what benefit is there to getting to that area except to see if the chests are unlocked anyway (which, as has been pointed out many times, is the owner’s fault for not locking it. If it’s locked, all the “abuser” is really doing is seeing the inside of the build (assuming no perms to delete stuff) and not really harming anything as there would be next to nothing to do there).
The thing is though the admins are actually enforcing reaching unreachable areas with /j as illegal hence this complaint https://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/user-complaint-dare2dream.173907/ The admin didn't even take in the fact that the chests were unlocked.
Yeah I remember seeing that complaint. I’m just stating that it’s just honestly dumb as really the only reason someone would use /j to get into a building is take stuff from an unlocked chest (correct me if there is another big reason). So, by the same principles, if I had an unlocked chest on a floating island with a locked elevator sign, would people who use /j and fly to get there need to get banned too since the only way to get there legally is by my sign? (Just food for thought)
Well according to @Imaginex 's interpretation of feature abuse if the area was covered and you could get there with /j but not fly that would be illegal. An actual definition of /j feature abuse should be added stating that using /j to reach unreachable areas is illegal.
Well said. Still, two questions about this: 1.) How will the enforcing ACTUALLY take place? Will they test literally every possibility to see if there is a legal way there (and take a lot of unnecessary time) before issuing a ban? 2.) Again, what else besides taking things from unlocked chests benefit the “abuser” by using /j?
Emmm, if the vault was completely sealed, using anything to get inside is either gonna roll out as grief or feature abuse. The location is sealed for a reason, if you have to use a feature to get into it, how in the world is that legal- and why in the world are you attempting to justify it. If the chests inside are unlocked, so what? They are located inside a sealed room. No one other than that person should have access to it. You're literally saying "i paid for this feature, i can get into places where i would not normally get into, and because i can get into it, i have the right to steal whatever i please" absolutely absurd!
My suggestion isn’t to make it legal. My suggestion is to put a clarification in the rules that using /j to get into unreachable areas is illegal.
/j doesn't leave logs. If the players simply looked around, nobody would ever have known and there would be no complaint. This was definitely taken into account as it was the only evidence there was. As /j doesn't leave any logs, this was the proof and was of course "take[n] in the fact."
Entirely correct. This is the course of action taken in these cases. It took me all of 5 minutes to determine /j had to be and was used.
Now before I go into what I have to say, I am just going to say that I do not take the stance of using /j to access a vault is right, just that it should go under the “frowned upon” actions (like taking stuff from unlocked chests) Exactly what I was trying to state. Thank you. Why try to enforce something you cannot track Yes, some you can clearly see required /j to access within a few mins, but not every Base is like that. I know mine for example has many cave networks connected to it (for decoration purposes) and can be easily stumbled upon without using features.
It mentions teleport compass and teleport compass is a powertool for /j Maybe a little confusing but tbh I don't have sympathy for people who hide behind rules to steal shit from others
Then again, that is exactly what /lock was designed for. It does, as Imagine has shown on the aforementioned complaint. To quote a post from andrew in 2014: "Welcome to EcoCityCraft. We log everything."
Since the confusion seemed to be over whether the rules disallowed using the teleport compass to get into inaccessible areas I have added a line to make this pretty clear. The rules now read; Teleport and Teleport+ Rules I did not specify /j because /j is part of the teleport feature and is the same thing as the compass.
